Riverside

[jaysponger]

And totally unacceptable. I was originally scheduled to interview with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office but Redlands PD(I live in Redlands) decided to step up and handle CCWs for its residents. I picked up my CCW yesterday, 10 weeks from mailing my app and 8 weeks from when I interviewed. Not only should the county do something to pick up the pace but so should cities in Riverside County. If Redlands can do it so can other cities. I feel for you guys in Riverside!

Thats pretty awesome!!! I don't think Murrieta will not be as friendly.

[Sleighter]

Murrieta might be a good place to start. My understanding is they've got plenty of room in their budget. Does anyone have connections to Murrieta PD that could reach out to them on their CCW issuance policies?

[Bgillette91]

How can I legally challenge Sniff's 2 year waiting period and failure to schedule an interview? He is clearly violating recent law via delay tactics. Any suggestions as to pre-lawsuit preparations?

Wait, he made it so that its a mando 2 year wait? I thought the reason its so long now is because since San Bernardino attack, everyone and their mother applied for a CCW. I saw it. Gunshops in the area were FLOODED with new people freaking out and looking for protection.

Ive met the Sheriff before at Warrior One in downtown. He is a good guy and he supports law abiding citizens' gun rights.

[Sleighter]

Wait, he made it so that its a mando 2 year wait? I thought the reason its so long now is because since San Bernardino attack, everyone and their mother applied for a CCW. I saw it. Gunshops in the area were FLOODED with new people freaking out and looking for protection.



Ive met the Sheriff before at Warrior One in downtown. He is a good guy and he supports law abiding citizens' gun rights.

No the wait time isn't mandatory. Yes it is because of the severe backlog of people that have applied in the last year and especially the last 6 months.

[R Dale]

I am sure if the sheriff wanted to there is something about the process he could change to speed things up if only on a temporary basis.

[INVINCIBULL84]

Everything points to the ccw department being undermanned so if this department was on their priority list they would add more staff to it. Personally I see Riverside sheriff's department hiring posters & advertising all over the place so I would think that they have the people, they just need to fill the positions.

[MURRIETA45]

Riverside

Murrieta might be a good place to start. My understanding is they've got plenty of room in their budget. Does anyone have connections to Murrieta PD that could reach out to them on their CCW issuance policies?

I have a buddy with MPD. I was talking to him about the Chief issuing CCW permits and he said that they would direct interested parties to Riv. Co. Now, this conversation was over a year ago and they do have a new Chief. I'll ask and see what he says.

[Sleighter]

I am sure if the sheriff wanted to there is something about the process he could change to speed things up if only on a temporary basis.

Such as?

[Sleighter]

I have a buddy with MPD. I was talking to him about the Chief issuing CCW permits and he said that they would direct interested parties to Riv. Co. Now, this conversation was over a year ago and they do have a new Chief. I'll ask and see what he says.

That would be awesome. If we could get Hemet, Murrieta and Riverside to issue that would reduce a lot of workload.

[R Dale]

Such as?

I think you have asked this before and I pointed out that other departments depense with some of things that Riverside does, I am not going to look up that info again but basically the department should not do anything that is not directly required by the state.

[IDPAJim]

Speeding things up

Such as?

How about increasing the CCW license to five years? Considering the amount of time the CCW unit must devote to renewals, this would help to some degree.

[Sleighter]

How about increasing the CCW license to five years? Considering the amount of time the CCW unit must devote to renewals, this would help to some degree.

The timeframe is defined by law. It can't be changed by the Sheriff.

[R Dale]

The timeframe is defined by law. It can't be changed by the Sheriff.

Ok but is what is required to renew specified by law? If not just mail out automatic renewals.

[R Dale]

I just checked the only thing required by the state for renewal is any four hour class on firearm safety and the permissive use of same. So when you submit proof of said class the county could just mail out your new permit. If you want change a weapon on the permit just fax or mail proof that you own the weapon you want to use and that should be good enough.

I know the county thinks by making things more complicated than need be they are keeping dangerous people from carrying firearms but that is not so, the fact is all the dangerous people that want firearms are already carrying them at least that is what I believe.

[Sleighter]

I just checked the only thing required by the state for renewal is any four hour class on firearm safety and the permissive use of same. So when you submit proof of said class the county could just mail out your new permit. If you want change a weapon on the permit just fax or mail proof that you own the weapon you want to use and that should be good enough.

I know the county thinks by making things more complicated than need be they are keeping dangerous people from carrying firearms but that is not so, the fact is all the dangerous people that want firearms are already carrying them at least that is what I believe.

I don't know where you got your information, but it's not the penal code. PC 26165 (c) says that a renewal course needs to be at least 4 hours, approved by the IA and cover gun safety and when it's OK to use a CCW. It's CCW specific training, not just any firearm safety class.

Also, the other major difference between renewals and new applicants is that renewals don't need to resubmit their fingerprints. However PC 26185 (a)(3) requires that a report he received by CA DOJ before any permit is issued. So since they already have your fingerprints you don't resubmit them, but they still have to run the background and send in the ok.

Other than training and fingerprints you have to complete every other step of the process. You must submit a full packet in writing with a signature every renewal. The packet must be complete. The most efficient way to process those are a single in person interview.

Don't you think if the CCW unit could lighten their work load they would? Maybe you haven't heard, they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off. I can't imagine living with that backlog on purpose, on top of the increasing number of renewals they're processing every year.

So no, they can't just automatically send off renewals automatically. The law doesn't allow it.

Thanks for reminding me why I'm spending less and less time on Calguns. Too much whining, not enough action. If you want to become part of the solution, come join the local NRA members council. We can always use more people and we're pretty well tied in with what's going on.