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  • SamsDX
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1451

    Originally posted by OCdude
    Are those mods going to disqualify me from using these as ccw guns? Do I need to go buy another glock?
    This won't come up during the interview, but the instructor from which you will receive your training certificate (which lists the guns on your CCW, and the instructor certifies that you demonstrated satisfactory proficiency with them) may refuse to sign off on them. The instructor might be ok with it, or he may not be - you'll just have to ask. The general rule I've been taught is that aftermarket parts are not ok, factory parts are.

    As much as I feel that a permit should not be needed to exercise our Second Amendment rights, the reality is that interpretation has thus far not been accepted in our jurisdiction. Hence, I prefer not to push the limits and take any steps that may jeopardize my privilege. If modifying my carry firearm to my tastes will lead to a heightened possibility of the Sheriff revoking my permit (no matter how small), I'm not going to do it.

    But beyond the issue of permits, if I end up having to use the firearm in self-defense, if modifying my carry firearm will lead to additional arguments that could be raised to challenge my credibility or otherwise have a negative impact in my defense, I'm not going to do it either.

    Sometimes I think we're looking at these restrictions in the wrong way. I intend to carry a firearm to mitigate risk. The natural consequence of having to rely on the firearm is facing the prospect of criminal and/or civil liability. Yes, I should have the freedom to make any modifications I want because it's my personal defense, but I ask myself if this will increase my risk of exposure to liability. If it does, it would seem to go against the fundamental premise I'm carrying the firearm to begin with - risk mitigation.

    If the modified guns are all you've got, then that's what it is, and you can swap out any aftermarket parts for the qualification and/or find an instructor who shares your view as to the nature of the modifications being within the scope of the Sheriff's policy. If you have the resources to purchase another firearm, however, I would strongly consider that option instead.
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    Gavin Newsom is a lying, cheating slickster and will be is the worst mistake California has ever made if he gets now that he has been elected Governor. Hollywood movie producers look to him and his oleaginous persona as a model for the corrupt "bad guy" politician character. This guy is so greasy, he could lubricate an entire arsenal of AR-15s just by breathing on them.

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    • PaIadin
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jan 2013
      • 1456

      Originally posted by OCdude
      Hey guys,

      Just found this forum and there's tons of info here. Thanks so much to all for sharing.

      I tried to search a bit re ccw and weapon modifications but didn't see anything come up that was concrete or current.

      On the OCSD website they list this under "CCW License Policy" section 218.4


      Has anyone asked about this in their interview? My G26 is stippled, finger grooves removed, and the trigger is undercut. Not to mention an extended slide and mag release. My G19 has the same mods and the grip is cut down to g26 length. Both are cerakoated too.

      Are those mods going to disqualify me from using these as ccw guns? Do I need to go buy another glock?
      Internal mods are a toss up, with non-manufaturer authorized mods being a big no no. I would say that you call around until you find a instructor that will sign off as the OCSD does not inspect it personally.

      Basically, the more mods that you make to the actual mechanical firing mechanism, they more its likely to be rejected.
      My opinion on the CA Government:
      Originally posted by Grover Norquist
      I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.

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      • AnthonyD1978
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 647

        Originally posted by AnthonyD1978
        Submitted my renewal on 2/16.

        I asked for an update on 3/2 and they said they are waiting for approval.

        I submitted a more detailed good cause this time (since they are a little more strict now). I hope it goes through.

        I will update when the status changes.
        Got my conditional approval on 3/10 for my renewal. Have to attend a 4 hour CCW class Then fax a copy of the class cert to OCSD.
        Principles over agenda

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        • PaIadin
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2013
          • 1456

          Any one in the March approval batch get their pick up dates yet?
          My opinion on the CA Government:
          Originally posted by Grover Norquist
          I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.

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          • Longroad
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2015
            • 17

            picked up today!
            applied 09/ 2016

            Initial appointment 12/30/15
            Livescan 12/23/15
            conditional 3/4/16
            CCW pickup 3/11/16

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            • mpang14
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2015
              • 87

              Originally posted by Longroad
              picked up today!
              applied 09/ 2016

              Initial appointment 12/30/15
              Livescan 12/23/15
              conditional 3/4/16
              CCW pickup 3/11/16


              Congrats Longroad!

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              • Longroad
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2015
                • 17

                Thanks! By the way, that would be 9/ 2015 applied. Day one went quick.

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                • GlockN'Roll
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 3677

                  Congrats!

                  Originally posted by Longroad

                  picked up today!
                  applied 09/ 2016

                  Initial appointment 12/30/15
                  Livescan 12/23/15
                  conditional 3/4/16
                  CCW pickup 3/11/16
                  Congrats!

                  Approvals continue daily!

                  Real Californian...

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                  • 1Fastrider
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1294

                    Originally posted by Longroad
                    picked up today!
                    applied 09/ 2016

                    Initial appointment 12/30/15
                    Livescan 12/23/15
                    conditional 3/4/16
                    CCW pickup 3/11/16
                    Happy for this guy but the fact that I had my appointment in June '15, livescan done month after and I'm still asking for updates every month (which they stopped replying to over email). really gets me mad. What's the order of how they go through these? My woman also applied for hers months after me, got her appointment moved up before mine and now and has her permit. Do they not go in sort of order?

                    EDIT: No criminal activity on any record, ever.
                    Last edited by 1Fastrider; 03-12-2016, 1:49 PM. Reason: more info

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                    • Albs
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 2158

                      Originally posted by 1Fastrider
                      Happy for this guy but the fact that I had my appointment in June '15, livescan done month after and I'm still asking for updates every month (which they stopped replying to over email). really gets me mad. What's the order of how they go through these? My woman also applied for hers months after me, got her appointment moved up before mine and now and has her permit. Do they not go in sort of order?

                      EDIT: No criminal activity on any record, ever.
                      Did you ask them what they're waiting for? Firearm clearance, etc.

                      If your livescan clears fasters than someones else then that's how they process you.
                      "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
                      - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

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                      • 1Fastrider
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1294

                        Originally posted by Albs
                        Did you ask them what they're waiting for? Firearm clearance, etc.

                        If your livescan clears fasters than someones else then that's how they process you.
                        6/22/15 intervierw
                        10/23/15(update request): We received your FBI on 07/07/15
                        12/2/15 "We have received your live scan information, but we have not received your FBI/Department of Justice paperwork from the State of California"
                        1/7/16 "We are pending DOJ/Firearms clearance".

                        no reply to my monthly email in Feb or March so far.

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                        • bigbob76
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3955

                          I've been following this thread for quite a while. It has been informative and entertaining at times. One thing for sure there are an awful lot of assumptions made and presented as fact. I'm not directing this at anybody, just making an observation.
                          If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein

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                          • Doheny
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13819

                            Originally posted by bigbob76
                            I've been following this thread for quite a while. It has been informative and entertaining at times. One thing for sure there are an awful lot of assumptions made and presented as fact. I'm not directing this at anybody, just making an observation.
                            Examples?
                            Sent from Free America

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                            • bigbob76
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 3955

                              Originally posted by Doheny
                              Examples?
                              If I did that I would be directing it at several somebodies, lol.
                              If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein

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                              • GlockN'Roll
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2015
                                • 3677

                                Originally posted by bigbob76
                                If I did that I would be directing it at several somebodies, lol.
                                But then they could explain/defend/discuss their assumptions that you feel are not factual...
                                Real Californian...

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