Los Angeles

[Glockster818]

That is really strange that they gave you the okay to do the livescan. This is probably the first time on here that I've heard of this. Just continue the process and you never know. You have to be as persuasive as it gets on your GC with complete sentences to let them know that you are serious.

[Paul49]

No, she told me it takes 3 months for the livescan to complete. I've seen it complete in 7 days. That's why I was a little confused.

You and she are likely talking past each other.

You are referring to when you see the LiveScan completed online while she is referring to when the LASD receives their notice from the CA DOJ which many believe comes in a letter that is released by the DOJ who knows when. Please recall if you download the LiveScan application from the LASD website, the LASD address is already included.

Once the letter from the DOJ makes its way through the USPS to the LASD where it then has to make its way into your file. Does that arrival trigger the next review of your application, or does the result simply reside in your file until something else triggers the next review of your application? This process is relatively opaque to us.

[bb557]

This is the first time I'm hearing of a deputy pre-judge an application, telling the applicant they won't recommend them and still telling them to do Livescan! Very strange.

Perhaps the file has to be complete before going to LT?

I guess the crime stats in your area fall under I live in L.A. and am afraid, so I get those, I think. As for the assault, I guess unless you can establish that is an ongoing situation the deputy assumed it fell under that as well?

Your other duties would have a better chance of succeeding so long as you can document that you are indeed collecting the rent and be able to tie the trust back to you or your family's interests. I would think you should be able to do that without adversely affecting the tax/ownership structure.

This is something they can sink their teeth into as an ongoing, high-risk activity that would get you yellow/light red.

Just random thoughts. good luck!

[JNH986]

Picked up today. All done, hopefully it will get renewed.

[igs]

Wow you need an "immediate threat"? Is LA back to Dark Red?

And if you do have an immediate threat, how is waiting 10 months for a CCW going to help?

[marcusrn]

Need some advice. I had my interview today, and was advised I didnt have good cause, but the process continues.

I’ve had attempted assault on me with police report, crime ridden neighborhood, multiple car break-ins with police reports, three neighbor break-ins, were all assessed as “not an imminent threat”.

I collect rent for a family business, but none of it is in my name directly, they all roll up to a trust. Not something I wanted to dig into as its currently structured to protect the stuff from estate and inheritance taxes. Not something I wanted to unravel on paper. Should I, is there a second chance?

I was advised he wasnt giving me a positive recommendation, but still sent me to livescan.

Mulling over what to do. Advise appreciated.

You have not been through the CCW process until you have been formerly rejected and then appealed and rejected a second time. This is the legal process. The Heller case would have been named Parker vs WDC if the 5 other original plantiffs had in fact applied for ccw. It's is worth the effort if you care about law in California. Many have exerted much effort so that 2500 Angelenos can get LTC. Make some effort, you will possibly benefit greatly.

[seaweedsoyboy]

You have not been through the CCW process until you have been formerly rejected and then appealed and rejected a second time. This is the legal process. The Heller case would have been named Parker vs WDC if the 5 other original plantiffs had been denied ccw. It's is worth the effort if you care about law in California. Many have exerted much effort so that 2500 Angelenos can get LTC. Make some effort, you will possibly benefit greatly.

From my experience, there is no "formerly rejected and then appealed and rejected a second time." There is "get formally rejected" then "get ghosted, nerd."

As it relates to the new/current LASD issuing schema, there is no formal appeals process detailed anywhere (that I know of).

[stag6.8]

I received my E-mail for firearms training today....Amen!!!!

[laufine]

All your GC is only to collect the rent, and the rent is not under your name. I believe the GC at least should be work-related. I agree with the other calgunner's advice. Don't do the live scan. If they receive the result, they might deny you immediately. Just wait a moment for policy change.

[ElectroHouseR]

Once the letter from the DOJ makes its way through the USPS to the LASD where it then has to make its way into your file. Does that arrival trigger the next review of your application, or does the result simply reside in your file until something else triggers the next review of your application? This process is relatively opaque to us.

Just my theory:
1. They either pre-approve you right after the interview (if you have a solid GC and all the documents) or they send your application to the lieutenant for consideration.
2. They do their investigation and whatnot while they wait for your livescan results.
3. They receive the result letter, which goes in a pile of sorted DOJ letters which takes some time to open.
4. Once they open your DOJ letter, the result goes inside your file in the system and they send the proceed to training email/call shortly after.

They have a system but at the end of the day it's mostly manual labor. I think it takes them about a month to just open your application and enter it in the system.
And I feel like doing the livescan and training right after you send your application will speed things up to some degree. The training is good for 1 year. Not sure about the livescan so it might be a good thing to call them and ask.

[ElectroHouseR]

I received my E-mail for firearms training today....Amen!!!!

What's your timeline?

[igs]

There is "get formally rejected" then "get ghosted, nerd."

If you get rejected you will need to answer yes you have been rejected on every subsequent CCW application and renewal forever.

[seaweedsoyboy]

If you get rejected you will need to answer yes you have been rejected on every subsequent CCW application and renewal forever.

Yeah, that's one of the first questions on the application. I'm not seeing the relevance of that to the post I was replying to though.

[Immortal547]

Wow you need an "immediate threat"? Is LA back to Dark Red?

[Mute]

I'm not saying I agree with this conclusion, as I believe anyone with a clean record should get a permit, but looking at your explanation, I'm guessing that the assault is being looked at as a one off event and not something that is directly related to activities you have to engage in on a regular basis. The rent collection was your best bet, but unfortunately if you can't document that, they won't consider it as part of your good cause. I'm rather surprised they advised you to get the livescan.

As to whether you should do the livescan, it's a crap shoot. With no clear guidance from LASD, your guess is as good as anyone else's as to whether you'll get approved or just waste a $100+ for a livescan. Your choice. However, if you don't do it, you're guaranteed not to get a permit.