Los Angeles

[Lockdown.-]

(Los Angeles has a population of 4 million, 2nd most populous city in the US next to 8 million in New York City and 2.6 million in Chicago.)

[E.Daniel24]

https://lasd.org/wp-content/uploads/...v.-08.2020.pdf

[Bill Carson]

(Los Angeles has a population of 4 million, 2nd most populous city in the US next to 8 million in New York City and 2.6 million in Chicago.)

Is this an attempt to correct my 10.1 million population number ?

[MajorCaliber]

...Ask yourself this ; why the sudden change in policy after being in office over 2 years. It is a pure political move. It is has nothing to do with your safety.

Obviously, time will tell in AV's case, but back in late 2017, Sheriff Gore in San Diego, changed his policy dramatically after multiple terms in office and defending his virtual no-issue policy up through the court system in Peruta. He made the change just as he was facing an election opponent who promised to issue for self defense. Full dark green. I was highly skeptical and was pretty sure he would stop issuing right after the election. He has not. I have had both my initial permit and a renewal in that time.

Sometimes the conversions are real, or at least experience makes them so. I believe it was Chicago that had to start issuing after losing a court decision, and after all the usual "blood in the streets" and "every fender bender becomes a wild west shootout" arguments, the Chief publicly admitted that to his surprise, permit holders were not causing any problems at all (while of course shootings by non permit holders continue). Sometimes, life truly is like a box of chocolates.

[Bill Carson]

Obviously, time will tell in AV's case, but back in late 2017, Sheriff Gore in San Diego, changed his policy dramatically after multiple terms in office and defending his virtual no-issue policy up through the court system in Peruta. He made the change just as he was facing an election opponent who promised to issue for self defense. Full dark green. I was highly skeptical and was pretty sure he would stop issuing right after the election. He has not. I have had both my initial permit and a renewal in that time.

Sometimes the conversions are real, or at least experience makes them so. I believe it was Chicago that had to start issuing after losing a court decision, and after all the usual "blood in the streets" and "every fender bender becomes a wild west shootout" arguments, the Chief publicly admitted that to his surprise, permit holders were not causing any problems at all (while of course shootings by non permit holders continue). Sometimes, life truly is like a box of chocolates.

I hope you are right. Some might think I am against them or the LASD issuing CCW's or am jealous because I cant get one. I haven't lived in L.A. county in 7 years. I just know that the sheriff that was once a deputy is now a politician. I don't believe or trust politicians.

[pacrat]

Originally Posted by Lockdown.- View Post
(Los Angeles has a population of 4 million, 2nd most populous city in the US next to 8 million in New York City and 2.6 million in Chicago.)

Is this an attempt to correct my 10.1 million population number ?

https://www.google.com/search?q=population+city+of+los+angeles&oq=population+City+of+Los+Angeles&aqs=chrome.0.0l2j0i22i30l8.16390j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

CITY of LA ................... 3.967 Million

https://www.google.com/search?q=population+of+los+angeles+county&ei=nqi-YLSXCoaZ-wS62IuQBg&oq=population+city+of+los+angeles&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYATIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQsAMQQ1AAWABg_soHaAFwAngAgAHFAYgBxQGSAQMwLjGYAQCqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAEJwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz

COUNTY of LA ......................... 10.04 Million

That 3.967 million, is included in the 10.04 million.

[Guninator]

Email the CCW unit and ask them if you have to disclose moving violation citations, or only convictions. If they were dismissed by a judge (as opposed to traffic school), they are not moving violations, which is what the application asks for.

[Bill Carson]

https://www.google.com/search?q=popu...hrome&ie=UTF-8

CITY of LA ................... 3.967 Million

https://www.google.com/search?q=population+of+los+angeles+county&ei=nqi-YLSXCoaZ-wS62IuQBg&oq=population+city+of+los+angeles&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYATIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQsAMQQ1AAWABg_soHaAFwAngAgAHFAYgBxQGSAQMwLjGYAQCqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAEJwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz

COUNTY of LA ......................... 10.04 Million

That 3.967 million, is included in the 10.04 million.

That fact is obvious. I do not know why the OP posted the POP. of the city of L.A when we are discussing CCW's in the COUNTY of L.A.. Do you ??

[E.Daniel24]

Email the CCW unit and ask them if you have to disclose moving violation citations, or only convictions. If they were dismissed by a judge (as opposed to traffic school), they are not moving violations, which is what the application asks for.

[thethreegs]

N/A

[Samuel Whittemore]

RE: Ok to assume I passed the preliminaries?

While they didn't outrightly say it... would I be ok in assuming I passed the preliminaries/background check and have been ok'd for a permit because I recently got this email:

"We are notifying you to complete the firearm training course.* Please visit our website at https://lasd.org/ccw/ to print out*the Shooting Proficiency Standards form and see the list of*providers authorized by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Complete the form with the firearms to be listed on your CCW license.".....

Good cause color = Light Red

[Paladin]

new here

With the crime rate going up should be good to apply. Im from Long Beach, just in the last month till present day there has been 31 shootings/stabbing/robberies/ assaults. Just about two weeks ago, someone was killed two houses away from mine

[Immortal547]

RE: Ok to assume I passed the preliminaries?

While they didn't outrightly say it... would I be ok in assuming I passed the preliminaries/background check and have been ok'd for a permit because I recently got this email:

"We are notifying you to complete the firearm training course.* Please visit our website at https://lasd.org/ccw/ to print out*the Shooting Proficiency Standards form and see the list of*providers authorized by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Complete the form with the firearms to be listed on your CCW license.".....

[Hsu]

Interesting. I was going to comment on the earlier post a Calgunner made here about disclosing a petty theft thing that happened before he turned 18. Not sure if that would be advisable, as juvenile records are sealed, and it argues against good moral character (not making my own judgment here, just what CCW units will think). Is it possible that a juvenile arrest could still be discovered by a CCW investigator? Yes, but I'd think the odds very low. Like if your LASD investigator arrested you or worked your juvenile case.

If you're worried wouldn't you be better off just going to get a live scan done on yourself and wait for the results? I'm assuming whatever you get is whatever they will get. Especially if you were a minor and had your records sealed / destroyed.

[Paladin]

Had my interview last Tuesday. I think it went well. The deputy stated, "unlike like our neighboring counties, hiking and camping is not a good enough cause as of now, however there are some circumstance of us issuing a ccw for such cause. We are primarily looking for POTENTIAL (she slightly raised her voice with a quick pause) work related good cause." Also stated, "it is not up to me to approve ccw's. It's above me. All I am doing is fact checking, gathering additional info, and proof to get you approved, or denied.

The CA CCW GC map clearly states it it may be off by 1 color either direction (but not 2).

One of the CGNers who got issued for Light Green is a C&R hobbiest. But at how many exchanges and/or dollar amount is that no longer viewed as a hobby but as a side job (i.e., Yellow)? Same with the one who uses very expensive video equipment for wilderness photography: at what point does that go from hobby photography to transporting valuables in area with little cell reception and long LE response times?

If I post about someone regularly hiking in remote park areas (without cell coverage and long LE response times) getting issued someone else is bound to read that and think they should get issued because they take power walks on their lunch hours in a park in DTLA!

ETA: I should remind everyone that months ago AV said he may liberalize GC further if his budget gets cut July 01 (Measure J “Reimagine Policing”). If he does that it could help many here get issued.

Plus SCOTUS has granted review of at least one Carry case for next term. The decision will likely be released June 2022. That should help all the rest of us to carry, one way or another.

And then I can finally take up golfing.... Ah, bliss!