why do so many come in here and BASH COPS

[SVT-40]

Telling a LEO to leave you alone when you have done nothing wrong is perfectly legal.

How does he know there is no violation of the law unless he investigates??

[ST5MF]

How does he know there is no violation of the law unless he investigates??

DING! DING!

We have a WINNER!

[tazmanian devil dog]

Here is a question for you.

Why, when a CHP officer gave me a ticket for supposedly doing 67mph in a 65mph zone on IH8 feel the need to throw (yes throw) the ticket at me as he was smirking and laughing...?

As I was trying to address this "officer of the law" he simply walked away from me got back in his cruiser and drove off(?).

The CHP officer was about as fat as I have seen a "public servant" in a long time. He must have taken a few minutes out of his eating schedule to start handing out tickets without any provocation what so ever.

I understand the state is broke but it is hard to respect a department that hires jokers like this. As of right now CHP has lost my trust...

Maybe you were a smart ***. Contempt of cop is always good for a ticket.

[J-cat]

How does he know there is no violation of the law unless he investigates??

In order for him to investigate, he has to have reasonable suspicion that criminal behavior is taking place. Since AW's are legal to possess and discharge at a public shooting range, where is his reasonable suspicion? Remember, the penal code specifies where AW's can be discharged and a public shooting range is one of those places. Do you think cops can just waltz into a high power match and detain everyone because they have AR-15's? Absent additional factors, they can't.

[ST5MF]

Maybe you were a smart ***. Contempt of cop is always good for a ticket.

I wish it was that simple. Unfortunately, I got *** raped because either 1.) the state is broke and CHP knows the cash cow is on its highways 2.) my Texas plates make me a target (most other states hate Texans like the Taliban hate Americans.)

The CHP officer new what he was doing and thought it was funny; he also knew that his badge and his gun gave him the power to do it. This is an unfortunate pitfall to our society. Though not perfect I would like to believe it is still the best country to live in on planet earth no matter what Obama does on a daily basis to deuterate it.

[SVT-40]

In order for him to investigate, he has to have reasonable suspicion that criminal behavior is taking place. Since AW's are legal to possess and discharge at a public shooting range, where is his reasonable suspicion? Remember, the penal code specifies where AW's can be discharged and a public shooting range is one of those places. Do you think cops can just waltz into a high power match and detain everyone because they have AR-15's? Absent additional factors, they can't.

At a high power match all the shooters and their equipment would have been vetted by the match organizers. But your original statement was about a public range. Very different situations all together.

If you don't like my answers fine. Do as you please. I hope no one else here takes your advice though.

It will not do them any good and only lead to trouble.

By the way, what formal training education and experience do you have in relation to just what an officer can and cannot do??

[tazmanian devil dog]

So you can read minds. You "knew" that he "knew" he had all this power to personally make your driving experience crappy.

My hats off to you.

I wish I "knew" what people thought.

Good luck with that.

And yes, you are from Texas aren't you.

[ST5MF]

In order for him to investigate, he has to have reasonable suspicion that criminal behavior is taking place. Since AW's are legal to possess and discharge at a public shooting range, where is his reasonable suspicion? Remember, the penal code specifies where AW's can be discharged and a public shooting range is one of those places. Do you think cops can just waltz into a high power match and detain everyone because they have AR-15's? Absent additional factors, they can't.

"In order for him to investigate, he has to have reasonable suspicion that criminal behavior is taking place." -J-CAT.

And there you have it folks.

[TRICKSTER]

If you tell these guys to F-off, that's all they will be able to do. You shooting an AW at a public shooting range is specifically allowed by the Penal Code. That activity does not even rise to the level of Reasonable Suspicion. Yes, they can approach you and ask questions, but they cannot do anything more than that. If they do, the consensual encounter turns into an unlawful detention and gives you legal avenues for relief.

Stop being paranoid.

So you have a legal rifle, the cop ask questions about it, and you tell him to F-off. Wouldn't it be more reasonable and mature to use this opportunity to educate the officer as to why this weapon is legal instead of leaving the impression that you are just another a**h**e gun nut. You can bet that after telling the cop to F-off, he will find some reason to make an official contact. Don't spit on the ground, drop anything, and make sure you obey all traffic laws when driving home. All can be avoided and you can leave a positive impression of people that participate in shooting sports just by being polite and informative about your weapon.

[ST5MF]

So you can read minds. You "knew" that he "knew" he had all this power to personally make your driving experience crappy.

My hats off to you.

I wish I "knew" what people thought.

Good luck with that.

And yes, you are from Texas aren't you.

It didn't take a genius to figure out that a laughing cop throwing a ticket at you was nothing more than abuse of authority. Just like it doesn't take a genius to see you are someone with an angst against Texans. Like it or not Haters are here to stay. Your post alone proves that. People, cops included "HATE," it is an ugly part of humanity plain and simple.

[tazmanian devil dog]

So you have a legal rifle, the cop ask questions about it, and you tell him to F-off. Wouldn't it be more reasonable and mature to use this opportunity to educate the officer as to why this weapon is legal instead of leaving the impression that you are just another a**h**e gun nut. You can bet that after telling the cop to F-off, he will find some reason to make an official contact. Don't spit on the ground, drop anything, and make sure you obey all traffic laws when driving home. All can be avoided and you can leave a positive impression of people that participate in shooting sports just by being polite and informative about your weapon.

Trickster

You are 110% right on the money. Having a bad attitude just makes us all look bad. You get a lot more with honey than vinegar. People with attitudes like ST5MF give the rest of us a very very bad name.

[ST5MF]

Trickster

You are 110% right on the money. Having a bad attitude just makes us all look bad. You get a lot more with honey than vinegar. People with attitudes like ST5MF give the rest of us a very very bad name.

You don't read much do you?

[tazmanian devil dog]

Whatever dude. You aren't worth the time.

[ST5MF]

Whatever dude. You aren't worth the time.

You don't write much either. You are a grunt.

Maybe reading and writing aren't your game. Perhaps a "spelling contest."

[TRICKSTER]

ST5MF, enough already, we get it. You got a ticket that you don't think you deserved, you think the cop was rude and making fun of you because you are from Texas, and because of the perceived actions of this one CHP officer, you have lost faith in the whole department Obsessing over it can't be healthy. Let it go and move on before you stroke out.