why do so many come in here and BASH COPS

[goathead]

every time i come in the area to read a post some one is always bashing cops

it says LEOs; chat, kibitz and relax. Non-LEOs; have a question for a cop? Ask it here, in a CIVIL manner
not quickly bash a cop than jump out of the LEO area. why even have this area, cops are people too and great people who do a hard job

[haodoken]

It's because those folks can't or don't care about following this forum's rules.

[haodoken]

Cleanup.

See...cop bashing comes from people like the quote above. Question answered. The internet gives the anonymity that people don't have in real life. Would they actually go to a LEO and tell them to their faces? Probably not.

[goathead]

See...cop bashing comes from people like the quote above. Question answered. The internet gives the anonymity that people don't have in real life. Would they actually go to a LEO and tell them to their faces? Probably not.

1++ and they have a run in with a LEO and then they blame all the LEOs here
like it there fault,,, people just dont like getting caught

homer simpson once said " its everyone's fault but mine"

[Fire in the Hole]

I know what you mean. I've visited several forums including this one where you are suppose to be able to ask a Cop a question, and receive an answer. Then, end of story. However after the question is posed, there will be a string of posts that begin with the sentence "I'm not LEO, but here's what I think. Or here's what I would do in that situation. Then when a bonified LEO does get an answer in, Someone will tell the LEO that he's wrong, or that's not what an LEO in a bar told him, or that he must be proud of himself for giving that answer, or that his answer won't hold up in court, and so forth and so on.


I wonder if Proctologists have such a forum where if a non-Proctologist asks a question, a bunch of forum members jump in and say: "I'm not a Proctologist, but here's how I would approach the situation. When a Proctologists does squeeze in an answer, someone counters with; "We'll I'd sue you then, Your are a disgrace to Proctology. You should not be in this line of work!"


Just wondering.

[goathead]

I know what you mean. I've visited several forums including this one where you are suppose to be able to ask a Cop a question, and receive an answer. Then, end of story. However after the question is posed, there will be a string of posts that begin with the sentence "I'm not LEO, but here's what I think. Or here's what I would do in that situation. Then when a bonified LEO does get an answer in, Someone will tell the LEO that he's wrong, or that's not what an LEO in a bar told him, or that he must be proud of himself for giving that answer, or that his answer won't hold up in court, and so forth and so on.


I wonder if Proctologists have such a forum where if a non-Proctologist asks a question, a bunch of forum members jump in and say: "I'm not a Proctologist, but here's how I would approach the situation. When a Proctologists does squeeze in an answer, someone counters with; "We'll I'd sue you then, Your are a disgrace to Proctology. You should not be in this line of work!"


Just wondering.

[haodoken]

Can't wait for the Cop Bashers to start pouring in on this thread! Let the fireworks begin!

[what2be]

Can't wait for the Cop Bashers to start pouring in on this thread! Let the fireworks begin!

On the contrary, I have friends that are LEO's and they are good people. And Ive run into bad cops as well. The problem is nobody remembers a GOOD encounter with a LEO, just the bad ones, which all the sudden blankets all cops as bad.

There have been a few times ive bashed cops in this forum, but mostly for things that I saw as a sensless tragedy. Like the bart cop that thought he had his taser and it was his gun. Im sure he feels remorseful, heck, it ruined his carreer, he lost his job, got death threats, etc, but on the flip side, the guy he shot shouldnt have been drawing attention to himself to get the police involved. Regardless, he shouldnt have died either.

In general, I think too many people run across LEO's that nick them on petty issues (seatbelt ticket, etc) and that gives people a sour taste in their mouth. (IMO)

I think too some people have a problem with authority, and that causes aminosity against LEO's as well.
Again, just my opinion.

A cop friend told me what he does is he starts off polite to the person he stopped, and if their attitude is good, so is his, if they get antagonostic or start up on the defensive, his attitude comes right back at them the same way. He calls it the attitude test. Basically, he will treat you the same you treat him.

[ST5MF]

every time i come in the area to read a post some one is always bashing cops

it says LEOs; chat, kibitz and relax. Non-LEOs; have a question for a cop? Ask it here, in a CIVIL manner
not quickly bash a cop than jump out of the LEO area why even have this area, cops are people too and great people who do a hard job

Here is a question for you.

Why, when a CHP officer gave me a ticket for supposedly doing 67mph in a 65mph zone on IH8 feel the need to throw (yes throw) the ticket at me as he was smirking and laughing...?

As I was trying to address this "officer of the law" he simply walked away from me got back in his cruiser and drove off(?).

The CHP officer was about as fat as I have seen a "public servant" in a long time. He must have taken a few minutes out of his eating schedule to start handing out tickets without any provocation what so ever.

I understand the state is broke but it is hard to respect a department that hires jokers like this. As of right now CHP has lost my trust...

[Fire in the Hole]

what2be Wrote:
"I think too some people have a problem with authority, and that causes aminosity against LEO's as well.
Again, just my opinion.

A cop friend told me what he does is he starts off polite to the person he stopped, and if their attitude is good, so is his, if they get antagonostic or start up on the defensive, his attitude comes right back at them the same way. He calls it the attitude test. Basically, he will treat you the same you treat him."


Well let's look at these. If it is common fact that LEO's are authorities, and by legal defination "In Authority", and "Authorized" to do certain things, what would suggest as a solution or alternative?

As your cop friend does, so did I. I found that the most effective way to deal with beligerent people was to to what I was taught in the adademies I attended. "Kill them with Kindness." Although tempting, I never threw their attitude back at them. I just became sweet as honey, which wound them up even more, I was able to do this with a disar4ming smile and a clam voice. We were trained in "Verbal Judo." It served me well for 30+ years.
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[Fire in the Hole]

Here is a question for you.

Why, when a CHP officer gave me a ticket for supposedly doing 67mph in a 65mph zone on IH8 feel the need to throw (yes throw) the ticket at me as he was smirking and laughing...?

As I was trying to address this "officer of the law" he simply walked away from me got back in his cruiser and drove off(?).

The CHP officer was about as fat as I have seen a "public servant" in a long time. He must have taken a few minutes out of his eating schedule to start handing out tickets without any provocation what so ever.

I understand the state is broke but it is hard to respect a department that hires jokers like this. As of right now CHP has lost my trust...

How can anybody here answer this question for you? Is it just hyperbole? Are your just venting? Is it retorical? Here's my advice. Write him a letter and ask HIM. This is the only way you will receive a direct answer.

[goathead]

The CHP officer was about as fat as I have seen a "public servant" in a long time. He must have taken a few minutes out of his eating schedule to start handing out tickets without any provocation what so ever.

I understand the state is broke but it is hard to respect a department that hires jokers like this. As of right now CHP has lost my trust...

you just proved my point

[GuyW]

I wonder if Proctologists have such a forum where if a non-Proctologist asks a question, a bunch of forum members jump in and say: "I'm not a Proctologist, but here's how I would approach the situation. When a Proctologists does squeeze in an answer, someone counters with; "We'll I'd sue you then, Your are a disgrace to Proctology. You should not be in this line of work!"


Just wondering.

But of course - its part of human nature...

One can substitute any number of roles in that hypothetical: attorney, traffic engineer, contractor, home remodeler, tax-preparer...

True bashing isn't "allowed", and hopeful differences of opinion aren't viewed as bashing...
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[GuyW]

As of right now CHP has lost my trust...

Katrina was supposed to fill that role...
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[Fire in the Hole]

you just proved my point

Yep. Pretty much.

I'm going to go on my soap box for jsut a couple of seconds here so bear with me please. These comments do not apply to everyone here. Only to a select few. Take a moment to ponder them.

The LEO's and attorneys that are members of this forum share a "like mind" wiht the rest of you. We are here to participate, answer your questions, and obtain information that we can not get elsewhere. OLL's for instance. We support the second ammendment. We support CCW. We support firearm shooting and ownership. We may be the silent minority, but we do come here to help and get help. Why then do certain menbers of this forum take advantage of their annonimity to insult, chastise, criticise, and berate us? We are on you side. When you do these things to us, you are not fostering a partnership between us. You are driving a wedge between us. How can any LEO or attorney objectively answer how you were falsely arrested, wrongfuly charged, maliciously prosecuted, and incorrectly found guilty, without a full review of the minute details of your particular case. How can I correctly discuss the height vs weight ratio of a given LEO?

In closing, remember when you seek free legal advice; you get what you pay for.

Thank you for your kind attention.