MERGED THREADS "Bullet Button Assault Weapon" Regs

[Wallabing]

Not only do you have the great privelege of "handling a BB rifle at home" but now DOJ can raid you anything time they want (compliance check) and now have first dibs on your guns when you die ,if you register.

Not to mention all the residency info they will have on you now when future confiscation comes next.

[John Browning]

My prediction:
- No one will register
- Everyone will get a grip wrap
- Next year: grip wrap illegal (this year's legal option is always next year's 'loophole')

End of AR15 in Kali.

Winner.

[PartyBarge]

My prediction:
- No one will register
- Everyone will get a grip wrap
- Next year: grip wrap illegal (this year's legal option is always next year's 'loophole')

End of AR15 in Kali.

Wife is planning our trip to Liberty Hill, Texas for house hunting sometime next summer. #winning

[PartyBarge]

Or meet the new definition of fixed magazine.

Patriot Button, ARMaglock, Franklin DFM
There is also a lock available for the AK pattern, don't know if it is compatible with Saiga mags or not as the mags do require modification.

But to be clear, BC I'm not (I know I know) those are not needed and a standard mag release can be installed if I go featureless right?

[Cokebottle]

Or go featureless. With an AK, take off the pistol grip. Change the muzzle device in some cases.

Voila!

The question was specifically about shotguns and pistols.
Unable to go featureless on those... the detachable mag is a feature on shotguns, and the magazine contained outside of the pistol grip is a feature for pistols.

[Wallabing]

Everything is happening as I have forseen.

[BajaJames83]

I'm right there with you brother. This is total BS that goes way beyond any reasonable expectations. Any thoughts I had of trying to play by the rules and register went right out the window. I won't register a thing. There are plenty of other ways to comply with the law and not register. I hope that the mass civil disobedience over this law makes it unenforceable.

Right now everything is either featureless or has a BB, now I am thinking of just ditching it all and obeying federal law.

[Flyron]

Hey, I have an idea that everyone Fax your BB-AW questions this holiday weekend to the DOJ, helping their system Burp!
Fax: 916-227-7480

[The Gleam]

Not even going to waste my time with this right now. They will soon realize how horribly the unintended consequences will be for them in opposition to their motives primarily as it goes back to the very thing that always befalls them; the people being commissioned and vetted to author these laws, to be on the committees that vote on them, to be the guy that rubber stamps it, to later interpret it and manuscript and subsequently publish the regulations, do not know firearms, do not like firearms, do not own firearms, have never owned a firearms, and have no idea how firearms work or even what parts of a firearm may do either in function or form.

That is always their downfall, their ineptitude showing, no different than the HUGE mistake they are making here.

Yet? I'm apt to simply let them do so, just for the serendipitous ending it will give us.

[Scott5182]

They are passing laws that are so ambiguous to the previous laws that I really doubt any DA in this state is going to bet on a win. Unless you are already a s!%$t bag and then the test case will show..... There are so many AR and AK owners out there with BB that have no clue that they need to register their rifles. Some poor shmuck will get dragged through the financial ringer by an overzealousOfficer and DA looking for a felony conviction.
Unfortunately, it may very well be a tax paying Citizen, maybe even an armed service decorated Veteran or Police Officer with no criminal record.... Just a firearm enthusiast that did the right thing and kept his or her BB on their Lego despite thinking it was BS......So wrong....

[jdben92883]

And the clear answer is...they will ban featureless once the registration window is closed.

Can you think of ANY other logical explanation? They buttoned up every possible loophole with this current mess. People think they simply forgot about featureless?

I don't understand why they made such an allowance for featureless. I get the evil features they covet, but with as much latitude as they took on this release, why stop where they did with such an obvious work around?

[Sousuke]

SB 880 regulations are exempt from OAL. These will be the regs. They are simply submitting them to have them filed and published.

As far as revocation not being spelled out, it doesn't have to be. The regs are their rules saying, "don't do it." If you do it, they kick you out of the club. The law defers the rules of AW registration to the CA DOJ and they have a great deal of leeway. Prove me wrong.

Other sections specifically spell our revocation.

Here is one on raffles:

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/charities/statutes/raffles_t11c15s410-426.pdf

[jdben92883]

Good idea. Maybe they'll reward your good effort by shutting down the DROS system and screwing 1000's out of their pickups.

Hey, I have an idea that everyone Fax your BB-AW questions this holiday weekend to the DOJ, helping their system Burp!
Fax: 916-227-7480

[goog]

And the clear answer is...they will ban featureless once the registration window is closed.

Can you think of ANY other logical explanation? They buttoned up every possible loophole with this current mess. People think they simply forgot about featureless?

Well if you go featureless now, you might be able to at least sell off your AR15s before that happens.

[skyscraper]

Did the DOJ ever reference rifles as "featureless" prior to this? Or are they adopting our lingo?