This is why we can't have nice things

[db42]

Looks like he's minding his own business they should do the same. All the videos I've seen look the same, they always try to paint them out to be the bad guys.

Yay for being pointlessly belligerent.

"I don't consent to a search of my person or my property"
Plain view chief, nothing is being "searched".

Is it registered to you?
"I don't have to answer that".
Why? What purpose does it serve to refuse to answer that? To make the whole thing take longer? To make yourself look like more of a prick?

"It is against the constitutional."
No chief it isn't. Idiots like this are the reason we lost open carry.

Nice to see the officers handled it so professionally while the guy shooting the video handled it so poorly. Then again, he's an attention whore and he was clearly trying to cause this exact scene from the start.

Do we really need tacticool geeks like this pressing the 2nd amendment? I think he's a neighborhood nuisance that makes gun owners look bad.

If I were to guess, the kid seems like he's a few nuggets short of a happy meal.
As others have pointed out, he's got AR mags and a bolt action rifle - hmmm. Seems like a nice kid, but pretty misguided.
I'm more to side with the woman in the video.
If your purpose is to pick up trash, your tool set should be a grabber and a trash bag, not a rifle and plate carrier.
If you're there to be a neighborhood watch, then switch to a black carrier that and get a "Security" patch for the back - and take some people with you who know what they're doing.

Most likely the kid is harmless, but he doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[retiredAFcop]

many of the people posting to this thread seem ignorant of how well the open carry idiots accomplished their goal in CA. Being realistic and smart doesn't seem to be qualities possessed by some gun owners.

Reminds me of this thought:

You have the right to free speech - as long as you're not dumb enough to actually try it.

Is a right actually recognized if you are not able to openly exercise it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lfInFVPkQs

[db42]

Reminds me of this thought:

Is a right actually recognized if you are not able to openly exercise it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lfInFVPkQs

You were able to exercise it, that is, until a bunch of idiots started "open carry rallies" to tell everyone about it. And then it got taken away.

You have free speech until you try to incite violence.
Adam Kokesh had freedom to post anything he wanted on the internet. He lost that freedom when he posted a video of himself loading a shotgun in a public plaza in DC (which is illegal in and of itself).

There's a difference between exercising your rights and acting out to get attention.

[NoSpam]

Walnut Creek, NC has a population of about 835 people.

According to city-data.com (they only had some info available)
-Crime index in 2003 was about 81. US average was 322
-Crime index in 2005 was about 22. US average was 312
-LEO's per 1000 residents is 2.36. NC average is 2.39

http://www.city-data.com/city/Walnut-Creek-North-Carolina.html

Crime in Walnut Creek (2003):

0 murders (0.0 per 100,000)
0 rapes (0.0 per 100,000)
0 robberies (0.0 per 100,000)
0 assaults (0.0 per 100,000)
6 burglaries (705.1 per 100,000)
4 thefts (470.0 per 100,000)
1 auto theft (117.5 per 100,000)
City-data.com crime index = 80.7 (higher means more crime, US average = 322.2)


Crime in Walnut Creek (2005):

0 murders (0.0 per 100,000)
0 rapes (0.0 per 100,000)
0 robberies (0.0 per 100,000)
0 assaults (0.0 per 100,000)
2 burglaries (231.2 per 100,000)
1 larceny count (115.6 per 100,000)
0 auto thefts (0.0 per 100,000)
City-data.com crime index = 21.7 (higher means more crime, US average = 312.9)


According to usa.com (they use their own algorithm)
-Crime index is 145. They rank #296 out of 297. That's right, there's only one other city with less crime in NC. Compare that with Winston Salem which has a crime index of 2,964, and Ocean Isle Beach which ranks #1 with a crime index of 8,952.

http://www.usa.com/rank/north-carolina-state--crime-index--city-rank.htm?hl=Walnut+Creek&hlst=NC&wist=&yr=&dis=&sb=DESC&plow=&phigh=&ps=

[NoSpam]

Your moronic supposition that the 2nd amendment is nothing more than a nice thing is eclipsed by your hubris in thinking that somehow a child could break it by simply using it.

That's quite an accomplishment, How did you cram so much fail in one short post?

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obviously you don't wear deodorant

[NoSpam]

many of the people posting to this thread seem ignorant of how well the open carry idiots accomplished their goal in CA. Being realistic and smart doesn't seem to be qualities possessed by some gun owners.

These hard core 2A extremist all know this. They're just still in denial and are delusional in thinking that displaying their rights like jerks will somehow rally more support.

[five.five-six]

It's a lot like how the right to privacy extremists have broken the right to privacy by using it by the millions, to kill their babies in utero

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[TonyNorCal]

I think California Open Carriers fail to understand the subtleties of the political climate in which we live. The immediate result of their Open Carry has been more anti-2A legislation. Congrats. Nicely done.

In any conflict you need to understand your terrain, your enemy, and fight in a way that maximizes your chance of success.

Open Carry in this state fails miserably in that respect.

[TeddyBallgame]

Any criticism of silly, pointless open carry displays like this video will result in knee jerk, mouth breather "anti!!!!!" responses.

Let's be real about the likelihood that this kid has probably played a lot of CoD and airsoft, and is fulfilling his fantasy of walking around the neighborhood playing pretend soldier. I'll bet he has no interest in protecting anyone or maintaining order, and would likely throw the gun down and run at the first sight of danger.

Any bad guy would instantly smell the musky weakness this guy is giving off, and would slap him and take the rifle with no challenge.

Finally, this is mega-duped and super old.

Bobby, you are probably 100% spot on with everything you've stated, especially the mega-dupe, super old part, but, I still have to defend this guys right to do what he is doing

We can't just arbitrarily pick and choose who can and can't exercise their 2A right...do I always agree with this type of display, NO...but, what does that tell us about our rights, if, we stand only to lose them, merely for the crime of exercising them?

How is he any different than the groups of people who gather in the center of town, and, open carry, or the people we see walking down the aisles of the local shopping outlet? We've allowed our government to brainwash the citizenry, and, now, with that accomplished, they are seizing the moment of the opportunity THEY created, using people's fears and discomfort as a means to drain each and every last one of us of our freedom

[mage]

You were able to exercise it, that is, until a bunch of idiots started "open carry rallies" to tell everyone about it. And then it got taken away.
There's a difference between exercising your rights and acting out to get attention.

How do you exercise the right to open carry without getting attention?

[stormvet]

I think California Open Carriers fail to understand the subtleties of the political climate in which we live. The immediate result of their Open Carry has been more anti-2A legislation. Congrats. Nicely done.

In any conflict you need to understand your terrain, your enemy, and fight in a way that maximizes your chance of success.

Open Carry in this state fails miserably in that respect.

Very well said Tony, that is why open carry must Form a 2A UNION. Only through Unionizing can the open carry 2A maintain their rights against the evil Anti's.

[dyson]

He just needs to go where he would be appreciated.....like Starbucks

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/8/coffee-cup-in-hand-gun-in-holster/

[five.five-six]

obviously you don't wear deodorant

Stick to your original post, you are not smart enough to troll efectively.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Too much communal brain power is being wasted on this video.

"OMG, somebody just dumped a fast food wrapper near a storm drain! Let me unstrap my bolt action rifle and figure out how to insert these AR-15 magazines into it and go deal with them!"

This thread should really just fade into forgotten already.

[dwtt]

Serious question:

What good does retaining a nominal open carry right do us if we can't exercise that right?

Personally, I think the open carry demonstrations were to little, to late.

People were open carrying guns in CA before the "movement" without problems. The difference was that folks were carrying on their motorcycle on the way to the range or to some other place before, but the open carry activists were using open carry as a means of political protest. The activists were in-your-face to everyone and gave fuel to the politicians to ban it. That's stupid. The people who open carried in the past, especially people who rode motorcycles, didn't do it as a political demonstration, and they didn't give a reason for a ban. If it weren't for the demonstrators, there would be no ban in CA.