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  • #61
    G-Man WC
    In Memoriam
    • Oct 2005
    • 10991

    A family story I will share. My grandfather loaned a revolver to a friend back in the 30's.
    The friend went home and shot his wife and bed friend dead.
    Don't loan out a gun. All of the persons I would even consider loaning to are friends that own at least one weapon already. -g
    If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
    -Samuel Adams

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    • #62
      SacTown
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1784

      HELL NO!
      sigpic SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM

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      • #63
        lilro
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 2374

        Originally posted by ubet
        Christ you guys are anal retentive. In the ops situation, hell no is the appropriate answer. But if you cant trust your so called "friends" to loan a firearm too, then I would suggest ALL OF YOU, need to redefine who you call "friend".

        To note, I have 3 "TRUE FRIENDS", the kind that their is nothing I would not do for them, no matter the burden it put on me. And I know, that if I were in the same situation, they would be there for me, and they have been, no matter what the cost. That, is a TRUE FRIEND. Everyone else, they are people I know.
        It's not really about trust. I doubt he thinks his cousin is gonna go do a drive-by or steal his gun. Things can go wrong. Especially with a person not experienced in fire arms. Say there's a hangfire or squib and he doesn't know what to do. Or he lets one of those girls shoot and they muzzle sweep the whole range. Even experienced shooters need another experienced shooter nearby to "spot".
        There is no justification for the public servant police to be more heavily armed than the law-abiding public they serve...Unless...the government's intention is to be more powerful than the people.

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        • #64
          cannon
          In Memoriam
          • Aug 2008
          • 8589

          I have one friend I would loan a gun to. Frankly, if he asked me if he could have one of my guns. I'd just hand it to him and say it's yours. Of course he would and has done the same.

          I'm lucky to have such a good friend for the last twenty odd years.
          ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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          • #65
            h0use
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2009
            • 5783

            wont let any one borrow any of my guns unless i am there

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            • #66
              FullAuto
              • Jan 2010
              • 5746

              I don't even like people shooting my firearms when we go out shooting unless they have/can prove to me they know how to handle a firearm safely.
              "THIS IS BAT COUNTRY"
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              • #67
                stevec223
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1620

                borrowed

                my brother (borrowed) my browning shotgun when i was in the army without my knowning....home on leave a year later, i pulled her out of the closet.....caked with mud.....beating followed....i still have that gun....pits and all.....no guns borrowed out of my sight....show anyone how to shoot though...hard lesson......

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                • #68
                  monk
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 4454

                  Originally posted by ubet
                  Christ you guys are anal retentive. In the ops situation, hell no is the appropriate answer. But if you cant trust your so called "friends" to loan a firearm too, then I would suggest ALL OF YOU, need to redefine who you call "friend".

                  To note, I have 3 "TRUE FRIENDS", the kind that their is nothing I would not do for them, no matter the burden it put on me. And I know, that if I were in the same situation, they would be there for me, and they have been, no matter what the cost. That, is a TRUE FRIEND. Everyone else, they are people I know.
                  I blame facebook. Everyone and their mother is considered a "friend".


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                  A tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny.

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                  • #69
                    ubet
                    Senior Member
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 1557

                    Originally posted by monk
                    I blame facebook. Everyone and their mother is considered a "friend".
                    You hit the nail on the head with that one.

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                    • #70
                      ubet
                      Senior Member
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 1557

                      Originally posted by lilro
                      It's not really about trust. I doubt he thinks his cousin is gonna go do a drive-by or steal his gun. Things can go wrong. Especially with a person not experienced in fire arms. Say there's a hangfire or squib and he doesn't know what to do. Or he lets one of those girls shoot and they muzzle sweep the whole range. Even experienced shooters need another experienced shooter nearby to "spot".
                      Dont mistake me, I absolutely agree he should not loan guns to his cousin, no question. What I was referring too was the rest of the posters saying how they would not let their guns out of their sight, even in friends hands. But as the poster above that I quoted, he is dead on. Everyone know a days is considered a "friend".

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                      • #71
                        asgalindez
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 1108

                        Originally posted by ubet
                        Christ you guys are anal retentive. In the ops situation, hell no is the appropriate answer. But if you cant trust your so called "friends" to loan a firearm too, then I would suggest ALL OF YOU, need to redefine who you call "friend".

                        To note, I have 3 "TRUE FRIENDS", the kind that their is nothing I would not do for them, no matter the burden it put on me. And I know, that if I were in the same situation, they would be there for me, and they have been, no matter what the cost. That, is a TRUE FRIEND. Everyone else, they are people I know.
                        Even our "TRUE FRIENDS" screw up. Took one of my closest buddies shooting with me on BLM land. I was firing my Noveske upper/Mega lower build for the first time. Let my buddy try it out. When he was done he put it back on the shooting table, but one bipod leg wasn't on the table and the rifle dropped muzzle down into the wet dirt filling the front end of the barrel with mud and putting the first scratch on my new rifle. Promptly disassembled, cleaned, and put that rifle away for the rest of the day.

                        He's still one of my best friends (I'm his son's Godfather), but that rifle is off limits now.
                        The question is not "How far?". The question is "Do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far as is needed?". - Il Duce/Prisoner#6570534 from Boondock Saints
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                        • #72
                          lilro
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 2374

                          Originally posted by ubet
                          Dont mistake me, I absolutely agree he should not loan guns to his cousin, no question. What I was referring too was the rest of the posters saying how they would not let their guns out of their sight, even in friends hands. But as the poster above that I quoted, he is dead on. Everyone know a days is considered a "friend".
                          I have a friend that I would trust my life with. Known for over 10 years. He's anti-gun, so he'd likely never ask, but if he did I would still say not without my supervision. It's not really a trust thing when it comes to firearms. It's a competence and knowledge thing. Say your friend wanted to borrow your firearm for an extended period, and didn't know it had to be oiled, and when you got it back it was rusted. That scenario has been mentioned in this thread.
                          There is no justification for the public servant police to be more heavily armed than the law-abiding public they serve...Unless...the government's intention is to be more powerful than the people.

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                          • #73
                            ubet
                            Senior Member
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1557

                            Originally posted by lilro
                            I have a friend that I would trust my life with. Known for over 10 years. He's anti-gun, so he'd likely never ask, but if he did I would still say not without my supervision. It's not really a trust thing when it comes to firearms. It's a competence and knowledge thing. Say your friend wanted to borrow your firearm for an extended period, and didn't know it had to be oiled, and when you got it back it was rusted. That scenario has been mentioned in this thread.
                            Then its not a true friend. You wont even let him borrow a firearm, but you think you would lay your life down for him .

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                            • #74
                              lilro
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 2374

                              Originally posted by ubet
                              Then its not a true friend. You wont even let him borrow a firearm, but you think you would lay your life down for him .
                              So because he's not experienced in handling firearms he's not a true friend? Seriously? WTF? Like I said, I would not lend him a FIREARM without me being present. All he knows about guns is from Halo. Which doesn't even have real gun models. If I was present, OF COURSE I would let him pop off some shots.

                              IMO if you would let ANY person near your guns unattended, with them not knowing anything about guns is irresponsible, and you should not be allowed to own firearms.
                              Last edited by lilro; 05-22-2012, 10:14 PM.
                              There is no justification for the public servant police to be more heavily armed than the law-abiding public they serve...Unless...the government's intention is to be more powerful than the people.

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                              • #75
                                ubet
                                Senior Member
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 1557

                                Originally posted by lilro
                                So because he's not experienced in handling firearms he's not a true friend? Seriously? WTF? Like I said, I would not lend him a FIREARM without me being present. All he knows about guns is from Halo. Which doesn't even have real gun models. If I was present, OF COURSE I would let him pop off some shots.

                                IMO if you would let ANY person near your guns unattended, with them not knowing anything about guns is irresponsible, and you should not be allowed to own firearms.

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