CA DROS Delay

[pacrat]

They refunded you everything you paid except the DO"J" extortion fee? I can't fault them on that, since the fee was taken by the pimp named Bonta. They should release, but their lawyers tell them that's "too much liability." On that, they have guilt.

Yes, the extortion fee went to DOJ. "THAT'S THE LAW".

Yes, the FFL SHOULD release. Because, "THAT'S THE LAW".

Since the FFL was a dickhead that didn't follow the law as written. They chose to break the law, and the sales contract. THAT IS THE ONLY LIABILITY INVOLVED.

BREACH OF CONTRACT.

The "too much liability" crock of crap. Is not what any 2A knowledgeable attorney would tell a FFL client.

THAT LIE WAS CREATED AND PROMUGATED BY KAMALA. In Jan of 2014. Becerra, and now Bonta, just let the lie stand, because it serves the purpose of their political agendas.

[johnctokalenko]

So you had a Firearms Live Scan and it took only 5 days for the results, I had my Live Scan on the 29th of July and so far nothing when I check online ig get in Progress.

Type Status
CA Completed - 07/29/2022 - Response will be sent after Firearms is completed.
Firearms In Progress

I think I should call them again!

I was advised to do a standard Record Review because of what you're encountering. I was only checking for "honest mistakes." There are none. Especially considering I've been approved for ammo four times during my wait, I figured there were no "honest" mistakes.

The "Firearms Eligibility Check" is being deliberately delayed, to frustrate exercise of rights. That's pretty damn clear.

I just got my FBI RAP sheet today, as well. No surprises, as expected.

[LMan57]

I was advised to do a standard Record Review because of what you're encountering. I was only checking for "honest mistakes." There are none. Especially considering I've been approved for ammo four times during my wait, I figured there were no "honest" mistakes.

The "Firearms Eligibility Check" is being deliberately delayed, to frustrate exercise of rights. That's pretty damn clear.

I just got my FBI RAP sheet today, as well. No surprises, as expected.

Ok thanks.

[johnctokalenko]

Yes, the extortion fee went to DOJ. "THAT'S THE LAW".

Yes, the FFL SHOULD release. Because, "THAT'S THE LAW".

Since the FFL was a dickhead that didn't follow the law as written. They chose to break the law, and the sales contract. THAT IS THE ONLY LIABILITY INVOLVED.

BREACH OF CONTRACT.

The "too much liability" crock of crap. Is not what any 2A knowledgeable attorney would tell a FFL client.

THAT LIE WAS CREATED AND PROMUGATED BY KAMALA. In Jan of 2014. Becerra, and now Bonta, just let the lie stand, because it serves the purpose of their political agendas.

Much, most, or even all of the "liability" these corporate lawyers are referring to may be the liability to their own personal political agendas, that is, "the Second Amendment is an 'outrage'."

If you have the time and patience for it, you could always look into small claims. Probably more trouble than it's worth, though - the judge will say you got your money back, so "what's the problem?"

If you paid Turner's by credit card, you could always chargeback the DROS fee, but I have mixed feelings about that. A small consolation for your hassle and denial of rights.

[LMan57]

I was advised to do a standard Record Review because of what you're encountering. I was only checking for "honest mistakes." There are none. Especially considering I've been approved for ammo four times during my wait, I figured there were no "honest" mistakes.

The "Firearms Eligibility Check" is being deliberately delayed, to frustrate exercise of rights. That's pretty damn clear.

I just got my FBI RAP sheet today, as well. No surprises, as expected.

Do you happen to know what ORI number of the form you submitted was this is way I will know if it's the same. I submitted two different one that was a record review CA0349435 and a Firearms Record Review ORI number AB165.

[mrdd]

Yes, the extortion fee went to DOJ. "THAT'S THE LAW".

Yes, the FFL SHOULD release. Because, "THAT'S THE LAW".

Since the FFL was a dickhead that didn't follow the law as written. They chose to break the law, and the sales contract. THAT IS THE ONLY LIABILITY INVOLVED.

BREACH OF CONTRACT.

The "too much liability" crock of crap. Is not what any 2A knowledgeable attorney would tell a FFL client.

THAT LIE WAS CREATED AND PROMUGATED BY KAMALA. In Jan of 2014. Becerra, and now Bonta, just let the lie stand, because it serves the purpose of their political agendas.

Much, most, or even all of the "liability" these corporate lawyers are referring to may be the liability to their own personal political agendas, that is, "the Second Amendment is an 'outrage'."

If you have the time and patience for it, you could always look into small claims. Probably more trouble than it's worth, though - the judge will say you got your money back, so "what's the problem?"

If you paid Turner's by credit card, you could always chargeback the DROS fee, but I have mixed feelings about that. A small consolation for your hassle and denial of rights.

@pacrat is correct. You should get the item that you paid for. If you wanted to keep the money, you wouldn't have even gone to the store!

[johnctokalenko]

Do you happen to know what ORI number of the form you submitted was this is way I will know if it's the same.

I do not, sorry.

[johnctokalenko]

@pacrat is correct. You should get the item that you paid for. If you wanted to keep the money, you wouldn't have even gone to the store!

OF COURSE you should! OF COURSE, none of this legalistic BS should be happening, either - "shall not be infringed." But the real-world reality is much different.

[pacrat]

OF COURSE you should! OF COURSE, none of this legalistic BS should be happening, either - "shall not be infringed." But the real-world reality is much different.

^^^ FIFY ^^^

Ca DOJ is CORRUPT TO THE CORE. They tell FFLs they only have to follow the law, "if they want to".

Then protect the FFL by refusing to hold them legally accountable for breaking the law.

[johnctokalenko]

^^^ FIFY ^^^

Ca DOJ is CORRUPT TO THE CORE. They tell FFLs they only have to follow the law, "if they want to".

Then protect the FFL by refusing to hold them legally accountable for breaking the law.

The California "government" - especially the Department of "Justice" - is ran by committed apparatchiks opposed to the very concept of self-defense, especially against them, provided for in the Second Amendment. So none of what's happening should be surprising.

[Nick Adams]

I was able to purchase some ammo today, no problem. Just after coming up “undetermined” for a gun purchase. Go figure.

[LMan57]

I think they just randomly pick someone to screw with.

[townbound]

I think they just randomly pick someone to screw with.

I totally agree with that. There is no rhyme or reason for me to be delayed. It's been 2 times in a row so far. I have PPT I'm supposed to pick up Monday, I guess I'll see what happens with that.

[johnctokalenko]

Demonstrating that the Department of "Justice" is either woefully incompetent and/or weaponizing "the law" against Americans.

Good for ammo = good for guns

[Creative300]

Demonstrating that the Department of "Justice" is either woefully incompetent and/or weaponizing "the law" against Americans.

Good for ammo = good for guns

Except there is no law that allows the Dept of Injustice to delay and delay for no apparent reason, not even attempting to give you any reason for your delay. A government agency that doesn't bother to follow it's own laws is the very definition of corruption.


If they can't do their job and provide you with a definitive answer (approved or denied) which is what you paid them to do then the very least they should do is refund you your DROS fee back, because you didn't get what you paid for. Otherwise it is nothing but outright theft.