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  • pacrat
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2014
    • 10285

    Originally posted by golfish
    All that delay time and they have never given you a reason?
    Originally posted by tdo21t
    Never. Not once.
    DOJ is not mandated to give applicant a "reason" for a delayed status.

    They are required by statute to give a reason for a "denial". Which is easily ignored by a simple word included in the statute. Included in the limited list of words they use to define the "reason". That word is "OTHER". Added to the end of the list.

    Ca DOJ, and the oppressive legislature in Ca, have a long history of covering each others BUTTS.

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    • The Gleam
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2011
      • 13491

      Originally posted by tdo21t
      Just an update, just got a call that my DROS is delayed for the shotgun.... two in a row.
      Oh, but for the admonishing 'terse' letter from FPC... ooooh, watch out DOJ, you might get an email too! - (Though it would probably be asking for donations and have a one-click-politics link to send an email to the DOJ.)

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      Originally posted by Librarian
      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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      • townbound
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Mar 2008
        • 264

        I guess I'll chime in, I just got my second delay for absolutely no reason. The first time was when i purchased a PS90 on 7/27/22, 10 Days passed, I went to the store to pick it up on 8/06/22 and to my surprise my Dros got delayed. I had never heard of this before. The guy in the store gave me the reasons why this "could" happen and those didn't pertain to me as I have an extremely unique name and I haven't had any contact with law enforcement in over a decade and back then it was a speeding ticket for driving 35 in a 25. I have never been a felon.

        This was my 18th Dros since 2002 and first to ever be delayed. It was very frustrating. I sent the DOJ an email about it and got the standard form letter response. After 30 days the Dros came back undetermined and the rifle was released to me. I bought a Tavor X95 from another store the same day I picked up the PS90.

        Today made 10 days and I was ready to go make my pickup. I called the store just to make sure and I got delayed again. This is irritating, but I'm not as upset this time since I knew it was a possibility I was told that once this happens you can be stuck in limbo with the DOJ. I guess I'll be waiting until the 26th now, for no reason.
        sigpicI shoot Targets and Movies.

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        • The Gleam
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 13491

          A right delayed is a right denied.

          A hostile and egregious civil rights violation, from a governmental agency that has clearly exhibited its animosity of the 2nd Amendment and civilian gun ownership.

          Abuse of power, lack of transparency, unethical.

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          Originally posted by Librarian
          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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          • johnctokalenko
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2022
            • 13

            Originally posted by The Gleam
            A right delayed is a right denied.

            A hostile and egregious civil rights violation, from a governmental agency that has clearly exhibited its animosity of the 2nd Amendment and civilian gun ownership.

            Abuse of power, lack of transparency, unethical.

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            The Rule of Law is disintegrating in the United States, especially Blue States like ours.

            I consider my Second Amendment right to be far more important than my alleged "right to vote." If one-tenth of the restrictions we face for the Second Amendment were applied to voting rights, there would be riots in the streets, as seems to be the norm for "the other side."

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            • Nick Adams
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1329

              I’m on day 30. Shop says they haven’t heard back from DOJ.

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              • LMan57
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 843

                What did they say after your 10-day wait?
                It's better to have and not need than to need and not have"

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                • Nick Adams
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1329

                  Originally posted by LMan57
                  What did they say after your 10-day wait?

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                  • Nick Adams
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1329

                    What happens on day 31, 32? If no answer do I have to start over?

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                    • LMan57
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 843

                      My FFL got a letter on day 6 on day 28 they got an undetermined and would not release it to me so I got a refund less the DROS fee.
                      It's better to have and not need than to need and not have"

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                      • LMan57
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 843

                        Originally posted by Nick Adams
                        They said sometimes it takes “the whole 30 days.” But it’s day 30 and no answer.
                        I think so day 31,32 someone here may no more than I do but after 30 days they should release it or issue a refund. I will be going on 60 days with my live scan that they said I should do.
                        Last edited by LMan57; 09-14-2022, 1:13 PM.
                        It's better to have and not need than to need and not have"

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                        • Nick Adams
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1329

                          So in effect, they can simply deny one the right to buy a firearm? Just by dragging their feet.

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                          • LMan57
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 843

                            Originally posted by Nick Adams
                            So in effect, they can simply deny one the right to buy a firearm? Just by dragging their feet.
                            Yes, this is their form of illegal gun control.
                            It's better to have and not need than to need and not have"

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                            • pacrat
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2014
                              • 10285

                              Originally posted by LMan57
                              I think so day 31,32 someone here may no more than I do but after 30 days they should release it or issue a refund. I will be going on 60 days with my live scan that they said I should do.
                              Damn Dude, between the DOJ and your crooked FFL. Just how sore is your bunghole? And how much money are you in the "hole"?

                              The very least your crooked FFL could do to ease your rectal discomfort. Would be a FULL REFUND, and a TUBE OF KY.
                              Last edited by pacrat; 09-14-2022, 11:32 PM.

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                              • LMan57
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 843

                                Originally posted by pacrat
                                Damn Dude, between the DOJ and your crooked FFL. Just how sore is your bunghole? And how much money are you in the "hole"?

                                The very least your crooked FFL could do to ease your rectal discomfort. Would be a FULL REFUND, and a TUBE OF KY.
                                I'm $137.50 in hole with DROS Fees and Two live scans since they told me to use the wrong form the first time.
                                It's better to have and not need than to need and not have"

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