1911 vs. Glock

[crufflers]

I hear people talk about the horrible for the Mini mags, especially with Promag, but I have not had any problems with them, John Masen, Tapco, some old 20rnd metal mags that just say USA on it and old 35rnd Eagle plastic mag, all work fine.

With the AR I only have Pmags, C product and 2A mags, all work fine but the 2A mags do not drop free. Like the colored plastic mags because I can have certain colors just for the Blackout

Mini-14 - I always heard Masen mags were good. I had USA and lots of other aftermarket metal mags that were horrible... still have them all probably. I have factory mags, Ramline, Tapco that work fine.

I have had some issues with Mecgar 10's in a 1911... Kimber, ACT, CMC seem ok... in the 9mm I have Wilson and the Springfield and they work.

That Alloy RIA Glock sounded pretty nice, but they should have made the rear sight dovetail instead of part of the optics plate that gets removed. Also, the barrel twist 1:16 is odd and reviewers were seeing round keyhole,etc... Glocks are 1:10 or 1:9.84 AFAIK.

Weird choices.

[Dutch3]

Never heard of those places but I forgot about Woolworths in Oroville, think they were still selling firearms in the 90s.

They were. Mother-in-law worked there. They had Enfields for $49.99. Father-in-law talked me out of one...said 'You'll never find ammo for it'.

[crufflers]

Pointing out that there are tons of 1911 manufactures is not an excuse, lol, but have to remember that for AR debates, just lump them all in with the cheapest AR made.

Lowers are pretty much the same or close enough... only so many forges, etc...

Critical parts are critical, hahah... namely the BCG and barrel. AR's are VERY standard IMHO. Ironically enough, some of the TOP TIER AR's are the ones that have proprietary stuff tossed into the system. Pistons, proprietary BCG's and supporting parts, etc...

Usually it is the standard parts being assembled shoddily that will make a cheap AR have issues IMHO. They are so much like legos, issues are pretty easy to see with a little experience... with just a few good spare BCG's and parts kits it is pretty easy to keep stuff running or trouble-shoot a new one with an issue.

My outlook is that there is no excuse for the end-user having to fix something right away whether it is a DD or a PSA or a Knight's or a Springfield. Everyone selling it should do enough testing to deliver a functional gun.

[Dutch3]

All utility aside, a 1911 in my hand feels like a solid, well-made piece of hardware.

A Glock feels like a Little Tikes golf club. Just saying.

[crufflers]

They were. Mother-in-law worked there. They had Enfields for $49.99. Father-in-law talked me out of one...said 'You'll never find ammo for it'.

I have a unissued 7.5 French, MAS36... never fired it. Never had any ammo. but it is French, so who cares.

[crufflers]

They were. Mother-in-law worked there. They had Enfields for $49.99. Father-in-law talked me out of one...said 'You'll never find ammo for it'.

I remember looking at AR-15's in BIG R when I was a kid. I wish I could recall the prices. I know I have bought newish surplus rifles in BIG5 for $50-$150 range... I got three Mosins mail order for $29 each one time. Shipped I think.

[TMB 1]

They were. Mother-in-law worked there. They had Enfields for $49.99. Father-in-law talked me out of one...said 'You'll never find ammo for it'.

I got a couple Swedish Mausers there, could not remember if it was late 80s or early 90s.

[crufflers]

A Glock feels like a Little Tikes golf club. Just saying.

It is relative and subjective though. If you have a G40 MOS or a G41 and a surefire light on it with an RMR and fully loaded with 18 rounds or 16 rounds... they feel pretty heavy and substantial. No different than something like a big H&K with a polymer lower and they shoot as well as anything too.

[TMB 1]

I remember looking at AR-15's in BIG R when I was a kid. I wish I could recall the prices. I know I have bought newish surplus rifles in BIG5 for $50-$150 range... I got three Mosins mail order for $29 each one time. Shipped I think.

Think it was PV by the time I was old enough to buy firearms in the 80s.

[Snoopy47]

Do you feel like you needed that Timney trigger to get the Glock to where you need it? Just curious. If I did try a $$$ trigger rather than a $15 connector, this would be the one I get.

How much have you modded the 1911?

So......... I was trying to get to a light trigger on the Open Glock, but gave up because the pre Timney technology required a lighter striker spring to significantly reduce an OEM Glock design. As a result I would get light strike ignition and reduced reliability.

So before the Timney I basically had a full blown Open Glock with an OEM trigger. A decent OEM trigger after some minimal polishing and a 6lb trigger spring, but still nothing great.

What Timney allowed for is a sub 3lb trigger with OEM+ ignition reliability. Granted, the Timney still lacks in trigger shoe adjustment that is a feature of other aftermarket Glock triggers, but they all potentially can have light strikes.

Yes, I am glad I went with Timney.

Now........... I feel a Glock with a Timney trigger greatly levels the playing field against CZ's when they are in single action.

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My 1911 mods are limited to recoil springs, main springs, and I am comfortable tuning the leaf spring. A 1911 trigger is a much easier platform to make a nice trigger to begin with.

I've not got around to building out a Open 1911. It's more costly, and less I can do myself (or at least less I can do without botching up).

Maybe I'll make an OPEN 1911 in 9mm. I've already fitted a 9mm upper, and I guess all I would need is a compensator and red dot mount, and that's the basis for the build. I just am playing with the Glock in Open and the 1911 in bullseye.

[Dutch3]

]It is relative and subjective though.[/B] If you have a G40 MOS or a G41 and a surefire light on it with an RMR and fully loaded with 18 rounds or 16 rounds... they feel pretty heavy and substantial. No different than something like a big H&K with a polymer lower and they shoot as well as anything too.

Sure. Just chipping in my 2 cents.

[crufflers]

What Timney allowed for is a sub 3lb trigger with OEM+ ignition reliability. Granted, the Timney still lacks in trigger shoe adjustment that is a feature of other aftermarket Glock triggers, but they all potentially can have light strikes.

Yes, I am glad I went with Timney.

Now........... I feel a Glock with a Timney trigger greatly levels the playing field against CZ's when they are in single action.

That sounds like an amazing new trigger. So is there too much overtravel or is it less than a stock shoe?

I have to order one.

[B yond]

All utility aside, a 1911 in my hand feels like a solid, well-made piece of hardware.

A Glock feels like a Little Tikes golf club. Just saying.

[crufflers]

Sure. Just chipping in my 2 cents.

Oh for sure. Me too.

I have compared so many polymer guns side by side back when I had maybe one Glock or none. The feel of all the polymer guns at the LGS counter are all very similar IMHO. They are kind of loose and squeaky, rattly, and yeah a lot of them do feel cheap, plastic parts down to the trigger on some, etc... I get it. Take a M&P, Glock, XD, a lot of the old SR Rugers, Kahrs... they all felt similar to me. It is TRUE that the decent 1911's parts slide like lubed glass and feel like a iron bar, click and clack instead of squeak, detents feel substantial, etc... a lot of the CZ's are similar, but with worse triggers. I love CZ's.

I started to like Glocks by shooting them and cleaning them and changing out parts, etc... they are reliable and easy to maintain. They are just easy to trust. Things like maximum mag interchangeability, compatibility, etc...

I do not like every Glock at all. I'd rather shoot a 1911 than a G30S. I don't really care for G19's. But there is a G30S in my kitchen and it probably has as much charm as the fire extinguisher. Everyone likes what they like and that's good.

[LazyJ]

All utility aside, a 1911 in my hand feels like a solid, well-made piece of hardware.

A Glock feels like a Little Tikes golf club. Just saying.

you won't have a hand for long if you shoot a Glock enough times