Additional reactions culled from the case thread in Litigation

[TuxedoOnATShirt]

Legal beagles, I need some help. What happens when we are all enjoying our new mags and then CA appeals, and then there's a stay issued(ie: the buying party is over)…. will possession still be legal?


If so, how? If not, why?
I understand that this case is regarding the ballot initiative that bans possession and there was an injunction issued against banning possession, meaning you can keep them. If this recent ruling gets an unfavorable(to us) disposition, what happens to the injunction allowing possession?

[Ishooter]

Not true. If a police has done wrong seriously and are proven, then he can be fired. And if he causes too much troubles, then he must need good luck to be promoted.

[blubullett]

I think they jerked around the definition of registered, not with what defines an AW, to make that happen. Liberal logic would say that changing the bullet button drastically changes what is actually being registered as if changing a gas cap would turn a car into an assault vehicle when registering with the DMV.

RAW and BBRAW may differ in terms of what is registered, but both are still AWs and a 30rd mag doesn't make them assault++ AWs.

And both are listed on the same registration paper the DOJ gives you when you register with NO distinction. A BBRAW is the EXACT same thing as a RAW on their paperwork.

[HibikiR]

And both are listed on the same registration paper the DOJ gives you when you register with NO distinction. A BBRAW is the EXACT same thing as a RAW on their paperwork.

Yup, and I look forward to seeing CADOJ lose in court over this BS.

[pc_load_letter]

Correction:
"Assault weapons" = ILLEGAL TO OWN!!!
*REGISTERED* AW = Legal to own, legal to use hi-caps
Fixed magazine = Limited to 10 round mags
Featureless = Legal to use hi-caps

I didn't register anything and not a fan of fin grips.

I like the juggernaut system so I am bummed I can't use my mags in them.

Maybe one day.

[Hsu]

Yup, and I look forward to seeing CADOJ lose in court over this BS.

Would love to see them lose. I only have one left that would be eligible to register as RAW if I could lose the bullet button.

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[butlers]

I didn't register anything and not a fan of fin grips.

I like the juggernaut system so I am bummed I can't use my mags in them.

Maybe one day.

I'm not a fan of fin grips either, but they're definitely not your only option. Here are some serious featureless builds:

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=22469911

The options out there are amazing:

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1293510

The fact that you can use standard capacity magazines in them only makes it sweeter.

[HibikiR]

Would love to see them lose. I only have one left that would be eligible to register as RAW if I could lose the bullet button.

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Please reword that because I'm worried the wrong interpretation of that would mean you just admitted to possession of an unregistered Bullet Button AW.

[unclerandy]

I'm hoping there will be a webinar from Chuck Michel forthwith!

[Ocguy31]

It's out there .


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...er-2nd-n989136

Somebody is doing some information digging tonight according to the search trends:

[Adeodatus]

So reading over everything it sounds like currently all CA businesses are still stuck with needing the Hi Cap Mag Permit in order to sell >10 mags. Any objections to that?

Private person to private person is good to go, along with biz outside CA to private person, but if a business within CA doesn't have that permit they are cut out of the market.

[silvertear]

So, with this ruling, how does this affect people in SF, Sunnyvale and other places that have city-level bans on "hi-cap" mags?

[Discogodfather]

So, with this ruling, how does this affect people in SF, Sunnyvale and other places that have city-level bans on "hi-cap" mags?

Good question. I placed a few order and half expecting all of them to be cancelled. Don't know how it effects anything but I still think it's worth placing an order to get in on the limited window or opportunity. If they won't they won't, no real problem.

Haven't heard any of the legal eagles opine on the local municipality level pans. If the state can't do it because it's unconstitutional then how the hell can cities do it?

[silvertear]

Haven't heard any of the legal eagles opine on the local municipality level pans. If the state can't do it because it's unconstitutional then how the hell can cities do it?

I'm not a lawyer, but that's what I figure as well. If it's unconstitutional then that means it infringes upon the fundamental rights and freedoms of citizens, thus should be thrown out. Still would like someone qualified in law to say whether our thoughts on this are correct or not.

[ar15barrels]

RAW and BBRAW may differ in terms of what is registered,

They actually don't differ at all.
When you get your list with your newly registered BBAW's, it will include your previous AW's from the 2000 and 1989 registry openings.
It's all one AW list with no differentiation as to which guns are from which registration because the system only track them as assault weapons.