Need help explaining guns to girlfriend

[NIKSD]

Click on my signature. Forward it to your GF. Good luck!

[Antihero47]

Man, my GF is always asking when am I going to apply to get mine. Says I need to hurry up and get on the ball.

[Jimi Jah]

You should probably just dump her now and save yourself the grief.

We all know how this will end.

[Loopwell]

Tag for pics of possibly super hot gf whos worth giving up guns over.

[whipkiller]

My girlfriend has a general dislike of firearms.

I need an article of some sort to explain why she's wrong and should support my decision to carry a weapon.

Yeah, 'cuz that always turns out so well...

Whether or not she is wrong, (and that's very subjective as it's based on individual values and opinions) explaining why she's "wrong" is probably not the tack you want to take.

You can provide information and positive experiences (a fun day at the range shooting tin cans with .22's, not running kill drills on human silhouette targets) that may eventually facilitate her changing her own mind about the gun thing.

Good luck buddy, probably not going to be a quick change to the situation.

(Unless you decide to explain to her why she's wrong)

[billofrights]

You should have had that talk a long time before "girl I started dating" became "girlfriend."

[JDay]

I'd simply show her the door.

[Defy Concealment]

As others have posted, you can't persuade someone to your way of thinking using logic and facts when theirs is rooted in emotion. That said, I'm not offering any suggestions for countering an emotional position. I honestly don't even bother to try anymore regardless of the topic. Too much work.

With comments like "only the police and military should have guns," you really have to wonder what your long term prospects are for this girl. There are plenty of awesome women out there who like to shoot and would actually prefer that you carry.

This is generally how I feel. It is REALLY hard to change a persons mind if their beliefs are based off of emotion.

And trust me I've tried. I had a girl tell me I wasn't "allowed" to carry when we were together. Instead of doing what I should have done (telling her she can't tell me what I can or cannot do and then telling her to take a hike) I spent a few weeks trying to convince her. Finally manned up and broke it off.

That being said, this could be a great test for your relationship. You get to find out how stubborn she is, and also find out how much she cares about what is important to you. My ex obviously didn't care at all, hence the controlling "you are not allowed to CCW" thing. But it seems like yours is just bothered. From what I have read she simply (out of ignorance) is afraid of guns.

Now you simply have to try and inform her, and see how she handles the information.

If I was in your shoes, I would explain to her your points, using simple facts, logic and reason. Then I would end the conversation with a something like, "I intend to carry, period." And see what she does. Don't give her an ultimatum, and don't "Compromise". We aren't talking about who does the laundry. This is something that is important to you and she simply has to accept that, or else you two will not last very long. Just my two cents

[hunterb]

Drop her off in a bad part of town at midnight and ask if she would like a gun. Then leave her there and say, "Good luck."

Don't date cowardly ignoramuses. Plenty of fish in the sea dude. You're probably young and this is your first piece of nookie and you think you're gonna marry it. Lol. RUN.

[Defy Concealment]

You should have had that talk a long time before "girl I started dating" became "girlfriend."

This too. In the future (if/when you two break up) you need to bring up guns wayyyy before you two are exclusive. Doesn't have to be on the first date or anything, but at some point you need to mention your "hobby" and see how she reacts. That way you can decide early on if you are going to make a future with this woman, or just have some casual fun for a few weeks before you move on to the next one

[Maht_g]

Tag for pics of possibly super hot gf whos worth giving up guns over.

Pics dammit! Let's vote if she's worth the effort of trying to change her mind! We need a poll!

[baffomet]

Don't date cowardly ignoramuses. Plenty of fish in the sea dude. You're probably young and this is your first piece of nookie and you think you're gonna marry it. Lol. RUN.

Agreed! You're going to learn that this is all a ploy to "change" you. Don't be that guy.

[johnthomas]

Show he this thread. Let her read it for herself. Research the crime and victims in your area and where you go. Take her shooting, teach her in case you are out and something happens to you so that she can take over and at least saver her self.

If this is a woman you are serious about and might spend the rest of your life with, there are a host of things you will have to agree on so that she doesn't threaten you with leaving every time something comes up. I admire her convictions, misguided as they are but if she is one hundred percent dead set against guns, then you have two choices, stay or go. Sorry to be so blunt.

[NYT]

You should probably just dump her now and save yourself the grief.

yup, i tried educated a previous GF. she was extremely attractive but liberal minded and in the end it just didnt work.

i would save the hassle, break up now and find a woman who doesnt intend to be a victim while waiting for the police to show up to protect her.

if you still want to make the effort, show her these:

http://thewellarmedwoman.com/index.php?_route_=women-and-guns/concealed-carry

http://www.armedinheels.com/female-concealed-carry-recommendations-from-shot-show-2012-pg-6.html?CDpath=3

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/177595-why-i-carry-concealed-gun-womans-view.html

[stilly]

My girlfriend has a general dislike of firearms. When I revealed to her that I regularly carry one concealed, even when I go out with her, she was severely pissed off -- possibly to the point of breaking up with me. I need an article of some sort to cleanly, quickly, and non-judgmentally explain why she's wrong and should support my decision to carry a weapon. I could write one myself, but I feel it's in my best interests to show her something from someone else.

In no particular order, these are some of her objections to my going about armed:

1. What gives you the right to decide who dies?
   
2. Can you really handle potentially taking someone's life?
   
3. Do we really have that much crime that you need to carry a weapon? I'm fine without one.
   
4. I'm afraid of a gun accidentally going off.
   
5. Don't you know that a criminal will just take it away?
   
6. You're more likely to hurt yourself or me with that thing.
   
7. I think only the police and military should have guns.
   
8. Do you really go around criminals who'd want to hurt you?
   
9. Don't ever carry one when you go out with me.
   

I don't know how she feels about long guns or ones with scary black features. She didn't say she was afraid of me shooting her, but I got that distinct vibe. She did volunteer that she likes quarterstaves, bos, and other cudgels. She liked my blackthorn cane I brought to one date because I hurt my ankle earlier and the restaurant was in a questionable area. I did threaten to use it against a charging dog that broke off its attack.

If you have peanut-gallery suggestions like "dump her" and the like, don't bother responding. I need some simple hard facts and figures easily proven and easily digestible.

I'm especially puzzled at how to proceed because during a double date with her, my brother and his wife, she was quite positively involved in the conversation on when and where my brother and I should go target shooting.

YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID.

On that same note, neither can CALGUNS so why have some of these issues even come up here? This could prove to be an excercise in futility or just a guy jumping into a pool trying to push the water away and keep dry...

What bold accusations there are that have been made. I mean common sense aint so common, but really, so JUST because someone is a criminal they have the magical power to disarm anyone? Come on now...

You sound like her cooze has you under its spell. There ARE many other fish in the sea. Either you are a closet libtard or you are just blinded by her scent but don't say that nobody told you to leave her because if you marry this thing down the line and these issues are NOT resolved within her then YOU are gonna be in an even sadder state. Try ONCE to change her direction, if she is too stubborn, DUMP HER. SHE IS NOT WORTH IT.


On the flipside though, does she have any hot friends that like guns? Get their number...