ohhhhhhhhh man! better get a new one now or ride out the inevitable collapse 5 years from now
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If your information just doesn't cut with her, give her the WHAT IF scenario.
Is there someone she love's so much (like mom/dad, sister) ? that it would destroy her to see them hurt.
If so paint a picture of a situation where BG's attack in the home, terminate one or more, a gun falls with in reach an opportunity presents it self to take a shot or face another senseless death,
A. does she give firearm to BG's. (here you lost this)
B. take the shot and stop the situation before it go's farther.
C. or just roll over & watch it all unfold until it's her turn ?
If she chooses A or C, she got to go, nothing worse than a women who's not got your back, if you know what I mean.Comment
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She's telling you how she feels about something she feels strongly about.
You're responding with information and facts, as if you're in a debate.
Probably information, facts and arguments will not easily change how she feels.
This isn't going to work.
You've got to talk to her, learn about her. Shut up and just listen. Figure out just how she feels and why.
Why does she feel so strongly about guns? Has she ever been around guns before? Ever been shooting? What sources of information about guns does she trust?
Will she go shooting with you? Or with someone else if not you?
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It's like a fire extinguisher. I hope to never need to use it, and try as hard to avoid situations where I'd have to, but at the end of the day we can't prevent all fires.
Its OK for her to have a negative opinion about guns, and the best way to change her mind on the subject is to not bring it up. With my gf (now my wife) she also didn't like guns at all. Granted, she had been taking kickboxing and karate for quite awhile, even using weapons, but guns were somehow evil. She didn't understand them, and is terrified of loud noises.
In the beginning of the relationship, I established that I owned guns, they weren't going anywhere, but promised her I'd never make her feel uncomfortable by bringing them out around her. I kept it, and after 3 yrs in, I traded going to Disneyland (I hated that place) with a range trip. I made it a nice day, we didn't stay very long and got breakfast before and lunch after. I took her to Lytle Creek Firing Line on a weekday morning, A) it's a nice drive, B) not busy, C) being outdoors makes it quieter. Loaded up a .22 with subsonics, she gained confidence once she realized how they work, and the rest is history.
Nowadays, 1 year into marriage and she's purchased 2 firearms for me as gifts, tons of ammo, and most recently a bayonet for my AR that she got during the big Amazon sale because id mentioned it.Last edited by cody88; 07-21-2015, 8:06 AM.Comment
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OP, do you have a CCW? I'm as pro gun as anybody here, but I'd have a problem with many people carrying illegally. It's just not smart and way too much at stake if you get caught, including your right to own ANY guns.
How much time do you have invested in this relationship? I get the impression you're fairly young. Let me tell you this from experience. There are some conversations you need to have early on in any relationship regarding life choices and what you want for your future. This is one of those things that's too big to not be on the same page as your partner. AFAIC, it ranks right up there with whether or not you want children. Granted there's always a chance you could sway her towards the path of righteousness and approve of gun ownership and concealed carry, but her statements are cut and dry extreme liberal statements. If you're conservative, and she's liberal, it's oil and water, it won't mix.
Like I said this all depends on how much you have invested in this relationship, but if it's early on and you don't want to lose her because she's a hot piece of a**, you're better off moving on, or you guys will have conflict over this as long as you carry a gun."All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." -Edmund Burke

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Take her shooting a few times.
Explain safety rules, explain safety then explain fun.
I've turned MANY of anti people, mostly just scared and confused girls with bad info. Hell most of my girlfriends want to go shooting more then me.
As my current one. She was scared of guns, now she has her own shotgun, AR and Glock. And she wants more.Comment
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BIG mistake is trying to reason with her ... that will get you NOWHERE...!
The LTC and your protection carry is your business, and your business alone [period].
What is that list in your OP ... didn't even read it.
Only thing you can do is watch more Godfather movies and learn how to ...,
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"A rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing" -- Jessamyn West
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"For life, liberty and Little Lizzie."
Best essay on the subject I've ever seen. If you haven't read it yet, trust me, you need to.
Read it and weep
Note for the unfamiliar: "The Memsaab Helena" is Connor's wife, got the nick after dazzling the locals with her gun skills on a trip to Africa.I meant, it is my opinion that...

I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
You're my kind of stupid. - M. ReynoldsComment
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Also check out the staged robbery in Mr. deeds. He didn't even need a gun! Probably won't help the argument. The only thing I can add is if she got so pissed you almost broke up, you should reconsider your relationship with her. I'm assuming you haven't been together long if she just found out you ccw. She may always have those feelings about firearms."Common sense is not so common"Comment
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You might want your girlfriend to read what happened in Detroit couple of days ago....
Quote Chicago tribune 07/19/2015
[Police in Detroit are searching for men who allegedly robbed couples in separate attacks and gang-raped the women while forcing their male victims to watch.
They say six men took part in one attack, forcing the 18-year-old woman and 21-year-old man to strip at gunpoint before raping her and robbing them. They say four men took part in the other attack, in which the woman was also raped.]sigpicComment
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Show her what ??? tell her what ??? explain what ??? -- Waste of TIME and energy
It's NONE OF HER BUSINESS ... it's NOT her LTC, not her gun, NOT her decision.
Be a man ... make a stand; NO explanation, no reasoning (as if that were possible), and no talking about it.
You have decided and that's the way it is ... and then move on, never to be discussed ever again.
Pretty simple remedy if you ask me..
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I agree with Zircon, if she's not into guns or an anti, its not her business. If she insists on making it her business, dump her.RIP Edrik M Alford 1966-2014.
I love you and miss you pop.
I'll meet you on the range in heaven, keep a bench open for me.
Pro 2A.
Pro Freedom
Pro Everyone minding their own business.Comment
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Yup I agree with this.She's telling you how she feels about something she feels strongly about.
You're responding with information and facts, as if you're in a debate.
Probably information, facts and arguments will not easily change how she feels.
This isn't going to work.
You've got to talk to her, learn about her. Shut up and just listen. Figure out just how she feels and why.
Why does she feel so strongly about guns? Has she ever been around guns before? Ever been shooting? What sources of information about guns does she trust?
Will she go shooting with you? Or with someone else if not you?
You need to do lots of listening. Lots of learning about her.
In the past when I came across a woman who were uneasy once they found out I collect different firearms I just listened to their reasoning. Most of the time it is because they were never around them but indoctrinated by television or someone they knew as bad. I took them ALL shooting with me and man they smile they had afterwords is priceless. That is when they see if first hand that when handled properly and especially with someone who has training, they can be a safe thing. Going to take a little time since I guarantee this girl has never went out with someone who CCW either.
If she continues to have negative feelings and says its either her or the guns then my advice for you to her would be …..
Last edited by M1A_KICHI; 07-21-2015, 9:02 AM.
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I like the carry legally people
I like the carry legally people . Some of us live in places that a ccw is impossible to get no matter what the court say the politicians throw another wall up . I don't carry illegally but I have no problem with people who do. Protect you and yours as you see fit . As for the Girlfriend issue you may want to feel this one out and see if there's a comprimse that can be made some people are so set in their ways that there is no comprimse. You may give up something either the Girl or the guns . So good luck .Comment
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