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  • #76
    2fast4u
    Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 416

    Cal-Arms

    Anyone Deal with Cal-Arms in Ontario? How are they and there Prices?

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    • #77
      Youngearth
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 171

      OK, just so I am clear. I read that at the time of DROS it has to be in single shot configuration, got it.

      My question is: Does a buyer have to actually take possession of the pistol and see for themself that it is in a single shot configuration? Can a dealer have it all configured back to "multi-shot" configuration ready for pick up when the 10 days are up.
      Do you love your kids? Get them out of the government schools!!

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      • #78
        EBR Works
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Dec 2007
        • 10484

        My concern is that if the firearm is not in a single-shot state prior to your taking possession at the end of the DROS period, the transferring dealer could be in hot water with DOJ should an audit occur.


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        • #79
          Cyc Wid It
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4485

          Originally posted by Youngearth
          OK, just so I am clear. I read that at the time of DROS it has to be in single shot configuration, got it.

          My question is: Does a buyer have to actually take possession of the pistol and see for themself that it is in a single shot configuration? Can a dealer have it all configured back to "multi-shot" configuration ready for pick up when the 10 days are up.
          They shouldn't do that, and the gun must stay in single shot form during the entire waiting period - no rotating conversion parts through multiple guns.
          WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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          • #80
            morrcarr67
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 14988

            Originally posted by 2fast4u
            Anyone Deal with Cal-Arms in Ontario? How are they and there Prices?
            I haven't bought any guns from them yet. I did buy a scope the other day and they had it priced at the same level as J&G Sales.

            They have a RIA 1911 .45 for $399. That's a pretty good price.
            Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

            Originally posted by Erion929

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            • #81
              Winemaker
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 59

              Anyone Deal with Cal-Arms in Ontario? How are they and there Prices?
              Cal-Arms is a cool place. They took care of my cousin when he bought a few things there.

              I asked about them doing the single shot exemption and the answer was -

              No they do not at this time.

              I think they should be taken off the list on this thread. They said they knew about this and didn't know who said they would do the SSE. I am just posting to let people know.
              "Don't point it at UFOs. You may cause the annihilation of the human race if the aliens think that you are attacking them." RE: Green lasers

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              • #82
                morrcarr67
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 14988

                Originally posted by Winemaker
                Cal-Arms is a cool place. They took care of my cousin when he bought a few things there.

                I asked about them doing the single shot exemption and the answer was -

                No they do not at this time.

                I think they should be taken off the list on this thread. They said they knew about this and didn't know who said they would do the SSE. I am just posting to let people know.

                I posted it. David; the owner, said he would do them.

                Now, I've talked to another guy and he says that they won't. I need to talk to David again to see what the deal is.
                Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                Originally posted by Erion929

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                • #83
                  RySean
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 81

                  Off-List Pistols from Buds Gun Shop

                  Originally posted by tuna quesadilla
                  Anyone have experience buying off-roster guns from Bud's Gun Shop?
                  I attempted to buy a Sig P226 X5 Tactical from them, however, they were extremely unhelpful. I talked to Valkyrie Arms prior to ordering from Buds, and they confirmed that they could do the conversion on that Sig, and that Buds ships off-list pistols to them.

                  After I put in the order at Buds, they put the order on hold, saying that they would not ship off-list pistols to CA. I spoke to customer service, explained that Valkyrie has an 07 FFL, and that they could receive the pistol with no problem. I also explained that they do single shot conversions for roster exemption. The customer service rep said that was fine, and they would transfer me to sales so I could explain to them. The person I discussed it with didn't want to hear it, and insisted it was illegal to even ship the gun to CA, and cancelled my order.

                  I spoke to Valkyrie again, and they were surprised I'd had this experience, because they had received a shipment of off-list pistols from Buds just that week. They told me they would attempt to contact Buds about my case. However, due to the difference in normal operating hours, they had difficulty getting in touch with them.

                  I opted to try ordering again with Buds, the difference this time was that I didn't add anything in the comments section about single shot conversions or off-list pistols, hoping they would just send it without any fuss this time.

                  This time, it was flagged because it shipped with a "hi cap magazine". I spoke to customer service, and explain that it was legal to ship a pistol with a hi cap magazine to an 07 FFL, and that the FFL simply wouldn't give me the mag. They insisted that it was illegal to even ship the gun with the mag to CA. So I requested they simply remove the mag and send the pistol. They said they couldn't do that (but didn't really provide any explanation why). The rep told me to email Brandon to discuss the issue with him, so I did, and got an automated reply which said the expected response time would be within 48 hours.

                  However, before that amount of time had passed, another rep had updated the order to say that they couldn't ship it to CA with hi cap mags, and to choose a model that came with a different mag (although it's an off-list pistol, there's no 10 rd mag version), and cancelled the order.

                  I'm hoping Brandon replies and is able to resolve the situation, but given my experience with Buds so far, I find it unlikely that that will happen.

                  I do not recommend trying to order off-list pistols from Buds, it seems to be quite the hassle.

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                  • #84
                    Cyc Wid It
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 4485

                    It's pretty luck of the draw with Bud's IMO. Valkyrie has a high capacity mag permit right?
                    WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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                    • #85
                      RySean
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 81

                      Yeah, they have an 07 FFL, they can accept pretty much anything.

                      BTW, conclusion to the story. Haven't heard anything else from Buds other than that the order was cancelled and money refunded. Meanwhile, DAS here in San Diego was able to order the X5 Tac direct from Sig, and they'll be using a Valkyrie Arms conversion barrel to do the transfer (a friend of mine happened to have one handy, and hadn't sent it back to Valkyrie yet), so it all worked out (no thanks to Buds...)

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                      • #86
                        Riodog
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1127

                        For Table Rock, I want a STI and am well aware if the fact that they won't ship to Ca. Do we need to replace the barrel to make it single-shot only OR can we just block and lock the mag to accomplish the same thing? Then it could be shipped to Ca with the exemption. STI doesn't have to know where it will wind up.
                        Rio

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                        • #87
                          Cyc Wid It
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 4485

                          You have to do both.
                          WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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                          • #88
                            Riodog
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1127

                            Thank you.
                            Rio

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                            • #89
                              Direct Action Solutions
                              Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 441

                              We are a shop in SO CAL called Direct Action Solutions. We are currently doing single shot conversions as well. So far we have the HK45, the FNP-45, AR pistols, Draco Pistols, and most 1911's. If we can be of any help to you guys just let us know.

                              Our shop is in Solana Beach. Give us a call at 858-436-7088.
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                              • #90
                                Cyc Wid It
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 4485

                                Temporary update (07 FFL no longer required + Direct Action Solutions added to the list). Will reformat again shortly.
                                Last edited by Cyc Wid It; 07-05-2011, 5:30 PM.
                                WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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