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2017 AR pistol thread (master)
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Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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I've had a few people try and convince me that transferring a pistol lower with a bullet button installed as "incomplete" is perfectly legal as of today. While I think the legality of that may be ok?
I think the issue, from what I'm reading in the thread, is that it would have to be manufactured post transfer to a complete pistol, and due to the law changes of home manufacturing, would thus be illegal. I'm just trying to make sure that I"m the right side of the law. Personally I would feel more comfortable if a mag lock was installed prior to transfer.BlipComment
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Something I've been trying to find info on. It sounds like everyone believes it's still legal to build an 80% lower into a single-shot pistol, and then convert to semi-auto (as long as the build process is documented)?
Is there any good guide for making a single-shot AR that would satisfy the legal requirements? Should we build all of our 80% lowers into pistols first to retain the maximum amount of build possibilities? I know that if it's first a rifle it can never be a pistol, but if it starts life as a single-shot pistol, can it then be changed to rifle and then back to pistol? Not that I'd consider that - just trying to understand the strange complicated laws...Comment
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I wonder how many people on here have volreg their 80% pistols and listed them as semi automatic. Anybody?"But mainly democrat voters would still vote Democrat if they elected Satan himself who ate babies as they came out of mother's wombs and killed people in the street. They hate republicans that much and are in that level of denial about what their party is about. They just simply can't handle the cognitive dissonance...." -SkilletboyComment
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"But mainly democrat voters would still vote Democrat if they elected Satan himself who ate babies as they came out of mother's wombs and killed people in the street. They hate republicans that much and are in that level of denial about what their party is about. They just simply can't handle the cognitive dissonance...." -SkilletboyComment
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Not true according to the regulations that were recently accepted. They clarify the vague laws eliminating any question for all home-built firearms back to 1968. You can follow our discussion here: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...1421339&page=9Comment
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That's not what I'm reading here https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...266636&page=50"But mainly democrat voters would still vote Democrat if they elected Satan himself who ate babies as they came out of mother's wombs and killed people in the street. They hate republicans that much and are in that level of denial about what their party is about. They just simply can't handle the cognitive dissonance...." -SkilletboyComment
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Is the date before which engraving and volreg need to be done 7/1/18 or 1/1/19? I'm a little confused about the dates in AB 857. I think that after 7/1/18 you won't be able to complete any new 80% w/o getting a DOJ s/n, while you have till 1/1/19 to put your self-assigned s/n on it and volreg if you have already completed a 80% before 7/1/18?Comment
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I'm no expert, but this is my understanding:Is the date before which engraving and volreg need to be done 7/1/18 or 1/1/19? I'm a little confused about the dates in AB 857. I think that after 7/1/18 you won't be able to complete any new 80% w/o getting a DOJ s/n, while you have till 1/1/19 to put your self-assigned s/n on it and volreg if you have already completed a 80% before 7/1/18?
7/1/18 is the date by which one should VolReg with their self assigned S/N.
After 7/1/18, one must apply for a DOJ assigned S/N, prior to manufacturing/assembling a self-built firearm. If one has a self-built firearm with a a self assigned S/N but did not VolReg, one must still request a DOJ assigned S/N and then have it engrave on the firearm as well. (This DOJ assigned S/N will be in addition to the self assigned S/N.)
In short, if a firearm is not VolReged prior to 7/1/18, it seems that a DOJ assigned S/N will be be the only option that one will have. It will be frowned upon, beginning 1/1/19, if a firearm was not entered into the CRIS database prior to 7/1/18 and does not bear a DOJ assigned S/N.
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The BBAW build had to be completed by the current owner prior to Jan 1 2017.I've had a few people try and convince me that transferring a pistol lower with a bullet button installed as "incomplete" is perfectly legal as of today. While I think the legality of that may be ok?
I think the issue, from what I'm reading in the thread, is that it would have to be manufactured post transfer to a complete pistol, and due to the law changes of home manufacturing, would thus be illegal. I'm just trying to make sure that I"m the right side of the law. Personally I would feel more comfortable if a mag lock was installed prior to transfer.
Any build completed after that time must be fixed-magazine, or otherwise not semiautomatic or it would be illegal manufacturing of an assault weapon.
You can legally buy a pistol lower PPT, but don't even think about building it out with a bullet button. We've had a number of confiscations and at least one arrest because someone attempted to register a BBAW that the DOJ believed to have been transferred to them after Jan 1 2017.- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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AB 857 regulations state all the required information in section 5520. As Cokebottle mentioned, per BATFE.
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