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  • RANGER295
    Administrator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Sep 2006
    • 4000

    Originally posted by projekt1
    CCW for Federal LEO likely or not?

    Agency recently made policy that prohibits carrying our creds when off duty and not authorized to off carry (obviously). I know HR218 (LEOSA) applies but don't want to violate policy so looking for CCW. I reside in Stockton.
    You may have a chance though he may contact your employer and if they do not approve turn you down.
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    ~Ben Franklin

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    • HowardW56
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2003
      • 5901

      Originally posted by projekt1
      CCW for Federal LEO likely or not?

      Agency recently made policy that prohibits carrying our creds when off duty and not authorized to off carry (obviously). I know HR218 (LEOSA) applies but don't want to violate policy so looking for CCW. I reside in Stockton.
      I am curious which agency came up with that policy.

      I know a few Fed LEO's, whose agency policies prohibit the carrying of anything other than their issue weapon, have obtained Permits to carry more concealable pistols or compact revolvers.

      Call the Sheriff and talk to their CCW coordinator…
      Last edited by HowardW56; 08-25-2012, 6:12 PM.
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      • projekt1
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 16

        Originally posted by HowardW56
        I am curious which agency came up with that policy.

        I know a few Fed LEO's, whose agency policies prohibit the carrying of anything other than their issue weapon, have obtained Permits to carry more concealable pistols or compact revolvers.
        DLA. The policy prohibiting us from carrying a loaded concealed weapon off duty has been in place for a while. However, this new policy prohibiting us from carrying our credentials off duty is new. It seems as though they had to make this new policy for reprimand reasons in order to cover their *** after the incident that happened in Modesto.

        I will call the Sheriff's office next week. I'm planning of providing both policies to him in addition to a Opinion letter signed by the Governor (he was the Attorney General when he signed) back in 07 stating that we are authorized to carry a loaded concealed weapon.

        Thank you and I'll keep you posted.

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        • MiddleKingdom
          Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 442

          When I took my CCW class for Sac County (2010) there was a guy who was renewing his license through SJ County. The guy was a bank manager and had a side business making jewelry. I'm not sure if that was enough justification or if he had the right connections. Funny thing is that on my application I noted that my family owns a business in Stockton (yes, we carry cash) and we have rental properties. I think the Sheriff's Dept was thinking "you had me at Stockton".
          "Now why doesn't somebody take out a .45 and BANG... settle it?" - Mr. Lee

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          • LuckyLou508
            Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 284

            Officer's from both Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore and Defense Logistics Agency in Tracy, are not cops! They are Security Guards, that is why they can't carry off duty.

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            • biglou
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1314

              You may have a better chance applying with Stockton PD. Not sure is they issue or refer you to the Sheriff. If you are not CA POST Police, Sheriff Moore more than likely will not approve you. Sheriff Moore will request a notification letter on letterhead from your employer. Do you have a link to the Opinion letter you are referring to ?

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              • biglou
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1314

                Originally posted by HowardW56
                I am curious which agency came up with that policy.

                I know a few Fed LEO's, whose agency policies prohibit the carrying of anything other than their issue weapon, have obtained Permits to carry more concealable pistols or compact revolvers.
                ^ Is this in San Joaquin County ?

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                • LuckyLou508
                  Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 284

                  Federal Law Enforcement such as Department of Energy or Defense Logistics Agency are a joke!! They get good training, decent pay and benefits but that's it. They have less authority than a Walmart Security Guard.

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                  • 209 srt
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39

                    I was talking with a guy at the local gun store and he was telling me if I live in the city I would have to go through local PD...but if I live out side the city I would have to go through sjc...is this true...and has anyone tryed recently...

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                    • RANGER295
                      Administrator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 4000

                      Originally posted by 209 srt
                      I was talking with a guy at the local gun store and he was telling me if I live in the city I would have to go through local PD...but if I live out side the city I would have to go through sjc...is this true...and has anyone tryed recently...
                      Not true but IMHO it would be a waste of time and money to try at the SO
                      "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                      ~Ben Franklin

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                      • 209 srt
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39

                        Originally posted by RANGER295
                        Not true but IMHO it would be a waste of time and money to try at the SO
                        so I could go through the SPD...has anyone tried going through them...

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                        • Toe Jam
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 28

                          Originally posted by 209 srt
                          I was talking with a guy at the local gun store and he was telling me if I live in the city I would have to go through local PD...but if I live out side the city I would have to go through sjc...is this true...and has anyone tryed recently...
                          I got the paperwork from the city, talk about paper work & B.S. You would have to pay to get psych evaluation and you could still be denied.

                          I got my CCW from the SO. He wanted to see a GC other then just because it my right. Had a long interview, several phone call and letters of clarifying my work.

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                          • FatCity67
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 5670

                            Originally posted by 209 srt
                            so I could go through the SPD...has anyone tried going through them...
                            Start at the beginning of this thread and you'll have your answer.
                            LetsGoBrandon
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                            • mbz dr
                              Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 176

                              Originally posted by Toe Jam
                              I got the paperwork from the city, talk about paper work & B.S. You would have to pay to get psych evaluation and you could still be denied.

                              I got my CCW from the SO. He wanted to see a GC other then just because it my right. Had a long interview, several phone call and letters of clarifying my work.
                              did you get from the SO or are applying for it ?

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                              • Toe Jam
                                Junior Member
                                • May 2009
                                • 28

                                Originally posted by mbz dr
                                did you get from the SO or are applying for it ?

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