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  • oldwilly51
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 61

    Originally posted by gregm784
    Heard a great news piece last night. Stockton, CA is whining because of the rash of young people committing crimes against people in the city of Stockton, and their financial inability to police the city. The police chief was on the news asking for the publics help in this matter. Perhaps, just maybe, you should allow more CCW permits to the legal, law abiding citizens.
    It is bad not only in Stockton and San Joaquin Co, but all up and down Ca. Sure wish all Sheriffs would allow law abiding citizens to have the means to defend themselves against violent criminals. I can't understand it.

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    • Jedi
      Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 136

      Originally posted by gregm784
      Heard a great news piece last night. Stockton, CA is whining because of the rash of young people committing crimes against people in the city of Stockton, and their financial inability to police the city. The police chief was on the news asking for the publics help in this matter. Perhaps, just maybe, you should allow more CCW permits to the legal, law abiding citizens.
      Have you, or anyone in Stockton, contacted Chief Eric Jones to discuss LTC since he became Chief in March?
      -Jedi-
      Semper Paratus

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      • gregm784
        Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 296

        I do not live in that county.
        I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
        ~Albert Einstein~

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        • greasemonkey
          Banned
          • Jan 2009
          • 2474

          Now is a good time to get the local community involved and in contact with the Police Chief and let him know where y'all stand on LTC issuance re: crime. Otherwise you're looking at another press release really soon about how the PD is going to be starting a Citizens on Patrol volunteer program or needs y'all to vote for initiative XYZ to borrow money at umpteen percent interest so the PD can have the tools they 'need' to fight crime.

          Originally posted by gregm784
          Heard a great news piece last night. Stockton, CA is whining because of the rash of young people committing crimes against people in the city of Stockton, and their financial inability to police the city. The police chief was on the news asking for the publics help in this matter. Perhaps, just maybe, you should allow more CCW permits to the legal, law abiding citizens.

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          • hermosabeach
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19114

            Tagged 4 interest
            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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            • biglou
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1314

              Originally posted by vmcdonnell
              I just plowed through the 14 pages of updates and bad news. I have a feeling I'll just have to wait until we move a bit east next year out to Calaveras Co. to get a CCW for myself. At least it'll be sooner than the next Sheriff election, but still, this is ridiculous.
              I also read all the pages and feel the same way. Very depressing. When I get my overtime on my next check I'm donating to the San Joaquin County fund. This has got to change.

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              • mbz dr
                Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 176

                is this at a dead end ? i guess this is a question to the people started this.

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                • DRAB_81
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2482

                  Originally posted by mbz dr
                  is this at a dead end ? i guess this is a question to the people started this.
                  I'm obviously not one of the guys that started this, but my guess is that it will be at a dead end until election time. Even then, there's no guarantee of change. Considering all the other counties that have been sued & beaten, while absolutely nothing has improved here in SJ County, I'm guessing Moore has enough ducks in a row to keep us from getting what we want. We're basically surrounded by issuing counties (and cities, for example Galt & Ripon), and yet we've made zero headway to speak of. Taking all that into consideration, and the current fight against SB249, unfortunately there are more pressing issues than LTC's in this county. I'm not saying they're picking the wrong battles, it just is what it is.



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                  Last edited by DRAB_81; 07-06-2012, 11:13 PM.

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                  • HowardW56
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 5901

                    Originally posted by mbz dr
                    is this at a dead end ? i guess this is a question to the people started this.


                    I wouldn't say that it is at a dead end, just that it is not on the front burner, for now...

                    There are more urgent issues right now SB249, now that Nordyke is no longer holding up cases, both the Richards & Peruta cases are coming up at the 9th Circuit; Pena v. Cyd will start moving again, Richards v. Harris...

                    The lawyers have their hands full...
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                    • advocatusdiaboli
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 5521

                      Originally posted by wildhawker
                      Also, note that our 2A "shall issue" carry case (Richards v. Prieto) is at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and fully briefed; it is stayed pending the resolution of Nordyke v. King.

                      -Brandon
                      Is there a mailing list I can subscribe to in order to learn of the results for all the cases tied to Nordyke? Now that Nordyke is settled, those should be settled soon right? I live in San Jaoquin County (just outside of Tracy) and would like to apply for a CCW in the near future.
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                      • advocatusdiaboli
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5521

                        Originally posted by RANGER295
                        I understand everyone's frustrations, and trust me, I am every bit as frustrated as the next guy. I want to assure you that San Joaquin County has not been forgotten. We will prevail, but specific strategies can not be discussed in open forum. The wheels turn slowly.
                        As a fellow rural San Joaquiner, I am glad to hear that. I will wait patiently and perhaps volunteer some time again.
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                        • CpuFixrMan
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2009
                          • 247

                          Originally posted by advocatusdiaboli
                          As a fellow rural San Joaquiner, I am glad to hear that. I will wait patiently and perhaps volunteer some time again.
                          Just to give you some time perspective... the post you just quoted is 9 months old. "Slowly" doesn't even begin to describe this.
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                          • advocatusdiaboli
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5521

                            Originally posted by CpuFixrMan
                            Just to give you some time perspective... the post you just quoted is 9 months old. "Slowly" doesn't even begin to describe this.
                            I know the pain. The only easy day was yesterday...
                            or last week...
                            or last month...
                            or last year...
                            or last decade

                            Ah California. I've seen glaciers move faster than firearms rights progress in California.
                            Last edited by advocatusdiaboli; 07-13-2012, 7:03 PM.
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                            • wilit
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 5200

                              Originally posted by CpuFixrMan
                              Just to give you some time perspective... the post you just quoted is 9 months old. "Slowly" doesn't even begin to describe this.
                              You're new enough to the forum that you don't know the agonizing pain of being told things will happen in, "two weeks."
                              "If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.
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                              • advocatusdiaboli
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 5521

                                Originally posted by wilit
                                You're new enough to the forum that you don't know the agonizing pain of being told things will happen in, "two weeks."
                                Yep. Remember that workaround for hi-cap magazines?
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