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  • Dvrjon
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2012
    • 11228

    Originally posted by Bulldog1911
    I called the number listed on the Sac Sheriff CCW and I talked to one of the officer. I told them that I applied for renewal and submitted all my requirements online. I also mentioned that my CCW expired already. I was told that they haven't touch any applications from last month and be patient to wait for further notice. Officer also told me not carry my weapon since my CCW expired.
    This may present bigger problems.

    The program limits the ability to apply for renewal earlier than 30 days from expiration. Thirty days out, the application is submitted and fees are paid. (In the past, fees were not collected until the issuance date.) The new system even terms these licensing actions as "products".

    Arguably, upon proper submission and payment, the SSD has contracted to act upon the renewal prior to expiration (one cannot "renew" that which is "expired"). Moreover, what you are purchasing is a two-year renewal. If the SSD does not renew until after the expiration date, then it would appear that they must issue the renewal with an effective date as the date of receipt. To backdate the renewal to the expiration date (ignoring the time the applicant couldn't carry due to expiration) results in paying full price for a 24-month license, but receiving a 22- or 23-month license.

    If one were to pay in advance for a full tank of gas, and then receive 3/4 of a tank, one might believe they have legal recourse against the vendor. This situation seems no different.

    Best.

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    • Zyralius
      Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 443

      My friend renewed last year and couldn't get a appointment until 40 days after expiration and they just renewed and used his expiration date but put it two years out meaning he only got like 23 months. Sucks.


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      • Rugerdaddy
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Dec 2006
        • 685

        No Renewals Yet

        Originally Posted by Zyralius View Post
        "Renewal people only: with the new website how do you even check for appointment openings? Do you have to fill out all your information and hit submit and then get to see if there is any openings for renewals? Thank you."

        Originally posted by Dvrjon
        Yes. I submitted on 22 Jan, 30 days prior to expiration.

        Application is awaiting assignment. Tick/Tock.
        I took my 8 hour refresher course on 12/22, submitted renewal online on 12/22. Never heard anything. Emailed about 1/17 because my permit expired that date, asked them if there might be a problem. They responded that if there had been a problem they would have contacted me, and that they hoped to start scheduling renewals by February, and to stand by. I still haven't heard anything, and am not carrying, of course, and feel naked and vulnerable when I go out!
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        • jimmie_dimmick
          Junior Member
          • May 2016
          • 29

          Sacramento *** TIME TO APPLY!!! ***

          I'm a little perturbed. Back in January, Sac sheriff told me that the old appointment system was no longer valid and they would send me an email when the new system was open for issuance of the new cards. I followed up today and they told me no emails will be sent now and to check the old site. It's been nearly a year process for me at this point.
          Crossing my fingers that issuance appointments open up soon.

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          • bob.dakeelstripe
            Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 418

            Originally posted by jimmie_dimmick
            I'm a little perturbed. Back in January, Sac sheriff told me that the old appointment system was no longer valid and they would send me an email when the new system was open for issuance of the new cards. I followed up today and they told me no emails will be sent now and to check the old site. It's been nearly a year process for me at this point.
            Crossing my fingers that issuance appointments open up soon.
            Sorry Jimmy I got my Livescan notice last month with an email that said it will be a couple of weeks before the system is operational and I would be emailed when I could schedule an issuance apt.
            A fellow cal gunner chimed in and said there taking apoiments so I snatched one. I only saw two days available at that time Feb 23 and 24 .

            But hey if I don't get qualified on the 18 n 19 be ready to snatch my spot on the 24@ 10 am !



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            • jimmie_dimmick
              Junior Member
              • May 2016
              • 29

              Originally posted by bob.dakeelstripe
              Sorry Jimmy I got my Livescan notice last month with an email that said it will be a couple of weeks before the system is operational and I would be emailed when I could schedule an issuance apt.
              A fellow cal gunner chimed in and said there taking apoiments so I snatched one. I only saw two days available at that time Feb 23 and 24 .

              But hey if I don't get qualified on the 18 n 19 be ready to snatch my spot on the 24@ 10 am !



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              It's all good. I'll just keep checking the appointment site daily. I'm sure I'll get one soon. Cheers.

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              • Jremy707
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 74

                Same thing happened to me, was told an email would be sent and never was. I was lucky to swoop what seems was a cancelation on the 17th

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                • bob.dakeelstripe
                  Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 418

                  Originally posted by Jremy707
                  Same thing happened to me, was told an email would be sent and never was. I was lucky to swoop what seems was a cancelation on the 17th
                  Good keep me posted if you get the " if you would have done as your told you would be getting the new Cc but because you didn't fallow directions here's your crappy paper licence " speach

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                  • charlieccw
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 6

                    I had my issuance appointment today. The issuance appointment calendar is available on the Sheriff's website under "gun permits" in the "services" tab. When I was there I heard someone say they were going to open up some March appointments soon.

                    The CCW I got is laminated but no photo - a little larger than a credit card.

                    The whole experience has been very good in my opinion. Folks were all very professional, friendly and helpful. I appreciate our sheriff, deputies and others there at the CCW office, including those who are volunteers there. It isn't the same at other counties from what I hear.

                    My time line:
                    Schedule appt. 6/14/16
                    Appt 7/19/16
                    Approval 8/29/16
                    Livescan started 9/6/16
                    Approval 1/17/17
                    Final interview: 2/3/2017
                    Last edited by charlieccw; 02-03-2017, 5:25 PM.

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                    • Dvrjon
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 11228

                      Originally posted by charlieccw
                      The CCW I got is laminated but no photo - a little larger than a credit card.
                      That sounds like the folded "rice-paper" permit, and not the new card license.

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                      • charlieccw
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 6

                        Originally posted by Dvrjon
                        That sounds like the folded "rice-paper" permit, and not the new card license.
                        That must be it. They printed a form, I signed it and they folded it over and laminated it. I saw several others receive laminated forms too.

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                        • Dvrjon
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 11228

                          Originally posted by Rugerdaddy
                          ...and feel naked and vulnerable when I go out!
                          I don't want to imagine the naked part, but I never met an E-7 who was "vulnerable."

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                          • Drivedabizness
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 2610

                            Originally posted by Dvrjon
                            This may present bigger problems.

                            The program limits the ability to apply for renewal earlier than 30 days from expiration. Thirty days out, the application is submitted and fees are paid. (In the past, fees were not collected until the issuance date.) The new system even terms these licensing actions as "products".

                            Arguably, upon proper submission and payment, the SSD has contracted to act upon the renewal prior to expiration (one cannot "renew" that which is "expired"). Moreover, what you are purchasing is a two-year renewal. If the SSD does not renew until after the expiration date, then it would appear that they must issue the renewal with an effective date as the date of receipt. To backdate the renewal to the expiration date (ignoring the time the applicant couldn't carry due to expiration) results in paying full price for a 24-month license, but receiving a 22- or 23-month license.

                            If one were to pay in advance for a full tank of gas, and then receive 3/4 of a tank, one might believe they have legal recourse against the vendor. This situation seems no different.

                            Best.
                            I lost 5 weeks off the life of my current license when the old one expired. They didn't give me 2 years from the new one - they gave me 2 years from the expiration date. Not saying its right - its what happened.

                            And not a peep on my mod. I'll come back as soon as I hear anything.
                            Last edited by Drivedabizness; 02-04-2017, 11:28 PM.
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                            • Sound&Style
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 91

                              Originally posted by Drivedabizness
                              I lost 5 weeks off the life of my current license when the old one expired. They didn't give me 2 years from the new one - they gave me 2 years from the expiration date.
                              Bummer. Mine expired in early January and I took the refresher class, qualified again and paid the new sacramentoca.permitium.com site. I was hoping mine would have 2 years from whenever they decide to issue the renewal. It kind of sucks having the early January renewal because you have to try and do all of the renewal stuff around the holidays.

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                              • Sapperforward
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 2928

                                Originally posted by Dvrjon
                                I don't want to imagine the naked part, but I never met an E-7 who was "vulnerable."
                                I've known a few. Lol

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