Sacramento

[CSDGuy]

I was interviewed yesterday also and was told the same thing nearly verbatim. I wonder if we were both interviewed by the same officer, or if this is something they have all been instructed to say during the interview process?

I dont see any reason why it hurts to emphasize that a CCW permit holder must be responsible and exercise extreme care and judgment before drawing their weapon. I just hope they are not looking for any reason to turn this thing over on our faces due to one persons bad decision! You know that even if the use of deadly force is justified, the rest of us are going to have to put up a hell of a fight to renew.

Remember, some Police Officers think that since they have had "all this training" and "you the public" hasn't had that same training or the same background checks and the like, that "you" can't be trusted with a firearm. The reality is that some people are well trained and educated in the proper use of a firearm for non-LEO situations and are far better at handling and safety than the LEO may be.

I'm a Paramedic. I also have a LOT of education that Paramedics do not get. Put a Paramedic on a stand-by at a sporting event and they'll quickly be out of their league... yet often they believe that only they can provide adequate emergency and injury care in the pre-hospital environment. Same kind of thinking and belief.

Bottom line is that regardless of the commission of a stupid event or two by a CCW holder, it won't change the process. Why? Because the Sheriff is already effectively under court order (to get the lawsuit dismissed) and I don't think Sheriff Jones really wants to go back to Court with a re-activated lawsuit when the plaintiff would have even "more ammo" to be used at trial or in an MSJ filing to further force him to do what he's already required to do. I'm sure that he's long been reading the legal "tea leaves" and has a VERY good idea what the outcome of that case would have been... which is why Sheriff McGinness caved when he did.

[hoffmang]

I'm thinking that the Chief of Police may need a little letter on CGF letterhead that kindly asks him to recognize the reality of Salute v. Pitchess and a gentlemen's agreement between Mr. Gura, and Mr. Jones...

-Gene

[harbinger007]

Gene, maybe you could hand-delivery that letter and bring along the coffee!

[jb7706]

I'm thinking that the Chief of Police may need a little letter on CGF letterhead that kindly asks him to recognize the reality of Salute v. Pitchess and a gentlemen's agreement between Mr. Gura, and Mr. Jones...

-Gene

Or perhaps Mr. Jones will inform him of that and save you the postage.

[CSDGuy]

Or perhaps Mr. Jones will inform him of that and save you the postage.

I would certainly hope that Mr. Jones advises the Sac PD Chief that his hands are effectively tied... Such a thing would certainly save some postage and some paper from the CGF.

[hoffmang]

Or perhaps Mr. Jones will inform him of that and save you the postage.

Due to the very high probability of the above, we'll probably write a nastygram to someone else instead...

-Gene

[wookie1976]

As I have not applied for CCW anywhere else before, I have a question about the interview process. As part of my interview, I was asked how long have I owned a firearm, if I was an NRA member, had I had any formal training, etc.

I understand that prior to the court case and reversal of tides, they wanted to know everything about the candidate in order to issue the permit. However, now that Sacramento is essentially "Shall Issue", it seems to me a moot point to ask me about my firearms experience and membership status to the NRA. I didnt mind informing the interviewing officer of my experience with firearms, but I can see how divulging this info would bother others.

In other places that are shall issue, are these types of questions asked? If so, why does it matter since the permit isn't based on how you would respond to these questions anyway?

[hoffmang]

As I have not applied for CCW anywhere else before, I have a question about the interview process. As part of my interview, I was asked how long have I owned a firearm, if I was an NRA member, had I had any formal training, etc.

Mainly they are hoping to confirm that you've had enough exposure to firearms that you're not going to ND.

-Gene

[HuyTLe]

i'm getting slightly concerned about my ccw process. I have an appointment in April

a few things about myself
26 years old, no criminal history
good job in the medical field
bought my first handgun ~4 years ago
took the 16hr ccw course with Wes (excellent instructor btw, highly recommended)
2 speeding tickets within the last 5 years, the most recent one is over 3 years ago

Currently not a member of the NRA, is being a member of the NRA beneficial to the CCW process?

how are my chances looking? thanks guys

[harbinger007]

Looks fine, find something else to worry about like global warming.

[NotEnufGarage]

Perhaps Gene can comment on this in light of the now 5 month wait for appointments ;

On page 11 of the CGF Civilian CCW Guide it states ;

"A sheriff who receives an application by certified mail, return receipt requested or express courier that is otherwise fully completed and has a separate proposed good cause attach would be considered to be in receiptof a complete application."

Is it perhaps time to try this out?

[brassburn]

I'm inclined to say that sticking to the program they have laid out for applicants is the smart move for now.

Perhaps Gene can comment on this in light of the now 5 month wait for appointments ;

On page 11 of the CGF Civilian CCW Guide it states ;

"A sheriff who receives an application by certified mail, return receipt requested or express courier that is otherwise fully completed and has a separate proposed good cause attach would be considered to be in receiptof a complete application."

Is it perhaps time to try this out?

[hoffmang]

I'm inclined to say that sticking to the program they have laid out for applicants is the smart move for now.

Sacramento County has a gun owner friendly virtually shall issue process. It's about 97% perfect. Just follow it, get your permit, and be happy that you live in one of the most populous easy issuance counties in the state.

-Gene

[ccwtrainer]

i'm getting slightly concerned about my ccw process. I have an appointment in April

a few things about myself
26 years old, no criminal history
good job in the medical field
bought my first handgun ~4 years ago
took the 16hr ccw course with Wes (excellent instructor btw, highly recommended)
2 speeding tickets within the last 5 years, the most recent one is over 3 years ago

Currently not a member of the NRA, is being a member of the NRA beneficial to the CCW process?

how are my chances looking? thanks guys

It's normal to be self critical in this situation, especially since this is the first time in our adult lives that this process has been realistically available to us. You have absolutely nothing to worry about. You're a good dude!! There's nothing, out of what you've shared with me, that could possibly even come into question. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with the friendliness and simplicity of the process.

Take care and no more worrying!

By the way, thanks for the compliment.

[spegull03]

just booked my appointment to turn in my application, June 23