Sacramento

[Tincon]

Are you saying that's not "ANYTHING" as you said above?

-Gene

Well I though it was pretty clearly implied, but I meant anything productive. Patting yourself on the back and saying "Derp, I filed a lawsuit, der derp" doesn't count.

[hoffmang]

Well I though it was pretty clearly implied, but I meant anything productive. Patting yourself on the back and saying "Derp, I filed a lawsuit, der derp" doesn't count.

Net 2500 new Sacramento LTCs isn't anything productive...

-Gene

[Tincon]

Net 2500 new Sacramento LTCs isn't anything productive...

-Gene

You taking credit for something you didn't do isn't productive. Those issuances came about as a result of a pro-CCW sheriff being elected, not a CGF lawsuit. Same old tricks Gene, don't you have anything new to try?

[hoffmang]

You taking credit for something you didn't do isn't productive. Those issuances came about as a result of a pro-CCW sheriff being elected, not a CGF lawsuit. Same old tricks Gene, don't you have anything new to try?

Which lawsuit changed the text of the Sacramento County policy?

For that matter, name me any group who has gotten a county in California to go VSI except CGF.

It is you who have only one trick. What I don't get is why after getting swatted and having this community get your back and then getting overcharged by counsel you got so warped. Is it stockholm syndrome?

-Gene

[Tincon]

Which lawsuit changed the text of the Sacramento County policy?

Gene you can keep spinning and attacking but at the end of the day the truth is Sac changed because someone new was elected who was pro-CCW. If the next Sheriff elected is anti-CCW it will change right back because there is absolutely no legal restriction in place. Your lawsuit did nothing except trick people into giving you money. I owe this community, which is why I'll continue to call out artists like you.

[taperxz]

Two points. First, we're not taking 100% credit, but I can tell you that when the Cal State Sheriff's Association talks about this issue, CGF is the primary thing they talk about. When we filed the very first post Heller carry case many other gun rights organizations (who now wish to claim they support carry litigation - especially after Moore) told us we were insane to push this issue. I can clearly state that CGF is the only gun rights organization to push a county in California to virtually shall issue. In addition, the increases in many other counties are solely (or in partnership with one or two other groups) our efforts. There are other smaller counties that have always been VSI that have simply had increases due to the reasons you mention though.

Second, the incoming and now current Sac Sheriff took more convincing than you think. A CGF volunteer - who refuses to be talked about - did the heavy political lifting. It burns when people who aren't close to the issues don't understand the fact that that volunteer can not be quoted and due to the ongoing case/controversy we can't publish privileged exchanges with the County - but at least those are alluded to in the blog post I made earlier.

When Richards is over, I'll happily share written proof of CGF and SAF's role in turning Sacramento virtually shall issue.

But going back to point 1, you have no idea how hard people disbelieved that Sac was VSI until they then started to tell us that we had no involvement in creating that. Gun owners have some difficulty getting over old wives' tales.

-Gene

Well, OK i guess we will see as you have asked me to wait for Richards. As for volunteers who got stuff done? I won't discount that either!

However, my experience is that when a volunteer sticks their neck out to help in other counties and actually gets results, they seem to get thrown by the wayside and told that their accomplishments were not important to the cause.

I look forward to hearing about the SAC volunteer. People that makes reference letters disappear and convincing a Sheriff to issue for "self defense" isn't a big deal.

Your minions may have been committed to SAC and a few other counties but the rest of the state is still waiting and was told to me that CGF doesn't have the time for such things any more.

[taperxz]

Which lawsuit changed the text of the Sacramento County policy?

For that matter, name me any group who has gotten a county in California to go VSI except CGF.

It is you who have only one trick. What I don't get is why after getting swatted and having this community get your back and then getting overcharged by counsel you got so warped. Is it stockholm syndrome?

-Gene

Sorry Gene, but CGF has given me a similar perception of your accusations here. For months you guys have abandoned CGN and left the Sunshine Initiative to die on the vine here. It really looks like you took your ball and went home when it came to those who donated to this cause and continue to come back to this part of the forum for answers and help. (again, just my perception)

[kdub1290]

Anyone heard anything about there ever being weapons modification appointments again?

If anyone wants to take a break from this little dispute and help me out with a legitimate question, then that would be greatly appreciated.

[CaliforniaLiberal]

"If anyone wants to take a break from this little dispute and help me out with a legitimate question, then that would be greatly appreciated. "

You may proceed Kdub.

[Bainter1212]

Appts are back up.....

[Gogo2nd]

initial appt

YES! HURRAH! The new Sac Sheriff office staff have opened up the CCW calendar of appointments again. I set my initial application appointment choice for the first week of February. Hope all flows well and I receive the final permit by July or August. Good luck to everyone else seeking their ccw....exercise your right...remember it IS your right to keep and bear arms. In my view the proper training afforded by the ccw process makes you a 'well-regulated militia...' -member. The proper training is what helps assure the safe possession and bearing of any firearm especially when outside the home. The permit process does not treat that right as a mere privilege but rather assures that the exercise of that right is...as the second ammendment states ...'well-regulated'. I wish to thank Sacramento Sheriff Jones for making this possible and not using the office to block access to ccw permits by unprohibited persons.

[kdub1290]

I see new applications opened up. Still no word on weapon modifications appointments?

[munnman84]

I Want final issuance appointments up... I have been waiting forever since "the office move". I am running out of time...my 6 month mark is coming up.

[Anthracis]

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[egDonald]

I see new applications opened up. Still no word on weapon modifications appointments?

No definite answer, merely speculation on my part... But I say yes they'll be back.

I don't see any significant reason why SSD wouldn't want to open this back up, other than lack of staffing. I know you're pretty tied of hearing the staffing excuse, but it seems logical.

Now that they've moved in to the new place, they'll settle in, maybe hire more personnel, and open modifications back up.

I'm assuming on of the primary duties of that site will be to handle CCW applications... Otherwise they could have implemented a temp location at the Florin location (where live scan is done).

If truly urgent you could contact ccw office email and see what they can do if you "renew" you permit earlier than needed.
Of course you pay the consequence of "lost" time on the permit, paying re-qualification course, DOJ fees, and SSD fees

Otherwise I know it's easier said than done... But be patient.

Good luck.


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