Riverside

[LMan57]

No. Carry what you legally own.



You need to study up a little.

There are people (regular citizens) in CA that legally own magazines with a capacity greater than 10 rounds.

True I own some but he did not specifie and your right.

[Firefox70066]

No. Carry what you legally own.



You need to study up a little.

There are people (regular citizens) in CA that legally own magazines with a capacity greater than 10 rounds.

A Riverside County Deputy recently told me that large capacity "Grandfathered" mags are ok for home defense, but for CA CCW carry mags must be 10 rds or less.

[lawaia]

A Riverside County Deputy recently told me that large capacity "Grandfathered" mags are ok for home defense, but for CA CCW carry mags must be 10 rds or less.

That Deputy was wrong. You can read through the RivCo CCW website and application documents, and there is no such statement.

I'm assuming (based on his statement) that it was a Deputy that is not within the CCW department.

[Firefox70066]

That Deputy was wrong. You can read through the RivCo CCW website and application documents, and there is no such statement.

I'm assuming (based on his statement) that it was a Deputy that is not within the CCW department.

That is correct, the deputy is not part of the CCW unit. But respectively, just because large cap.mags are not mentioned on the website, does not mean its allowed for CCW, I didn't see anything on the website regarding trigger jobs to lighten the trigger pull, but we all know that's prohibited on a CA CCW firearm.

[this_copy]

That is correct, the deputy is not part of the CCW unit. But respectively, just because large cap.mags are not mentioned on the website, does not mean its allowed for CCW, I didn't see anything on the website regarding trigger jobs to lighten the trigger pull, but we all know that's prohibited on a CA CCW firearm.

Ask one of the two CCW Unit Deputies your questions. If something is open to interpretation, then their interpretation will be considered the Gold Standard.

Everyone on CG has an opinion. Right or wrong, it is just that, an opinion.

EDIT: Sorry Firefoxx, I just realized you did not ask the original question regarding magazine capacity. My response was directed at Coldturkey.

[Sleighter]

That is correct, the deputy is not part of the CCW unit. But respectively, just because large cap.mags are not mentioned on the website, does not mean its allowed for CCW, I didn't see anything on the website regarding trigger jobs to lighten the trigger pull, but we all know that's prohibited on a CA CCW firearm.

With all due respect, I would like to see a source for this information "but we all know that's prohibited on a CA CCW firearm." I don't know that at all. In fact, I believe the exact opposite and I don't consider myself ignorant or uninformed on this topic. Trigger work is a grey area and it's relevance will be determined on a case-by-case basis.

Let's please try and stick to actual knowledge on this thread, either from direct experience in the process or answers received from the ccw unit. Even then, it's best to temper how far we extend 1 person's experience.

[Firefox70066]

With all due respect, I would like to see a source for this information "but we all know that's prohibited on a CA CCW firearm." I don't know that at all. In fact, I believe the exact opposite and I don't consider myself ignorant or uninformed on this topic. Trigger work is a grey area and it's relevance will be determined on a case-by-case basis.

Let's please try and stick to actual knowledge on this thread, either from direct experience in the process or answers received from the ccw unit. Even then, it's best to temper how far we extend 1 person's experience.

Sleighter, First of all I value your opinion more than anyone else on this forum, you have helped me out in the past and I appreciate that. And yes I am fairly new to this forum, about 2 years.

Regarding my comment about a trigger job to lighten the trigger pull, I did NOT pull that out of my hat. I heard it straight from the instructor last year at my CCW training class at Ben Clark.

[GuyFawkes]

That is correct, the deputy is not part of the CCW unit. But respectively, just because large cap.mags are not mentioned on the website, does not mean its allowed for CCW, I didn't see anything on the website regarding trigger jobs to lighten the trigger pull, but we all know that's prohibited on a CA CCW firearm.

That rule is listed in the Riverside County application under the acknowledgment of restrictions, but it is not a state wide law. So it is a contract you are agreeing to that if you break you risk not being covered by your CCW if anything were to happen when it comes to criminal or civil liability. Other counties may have something similar regarding modification and others may not have any requirements. See below for the requirements for Riverside County since you mentioned Ben Clark:

"Absolutely no modifications shall be made to any weapon, without the approval, and subsequent inspection,
of the rangemaster staff located at the Ben Clark Training Center. Scopes of any type are not permitted.
When utilizing laser sights or a lighting system, it is the responsibility of the licensee to ensure the system is
operable, correctly attached to the firearm, and properly adjusted for accuracy."

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/pdf/...ccw-noform.pdf

[Sleighter]

That rule is listed in the Riverside County application under the acknowledgment of restrictions, but it is not a state wide law. So it is a contract you are agreeing to that if you break you risk not being covered by your CCW if anything were to happen when it comes to criminal or civil liability. Other counties may have something similar regarding modification and others may not have any requirements. See below for the requirements for Riverside County since you mentioned Ben Clark:



"Absolutely no modifications shall be made to any weapon, without the approval, and subsequent inspection,

of the rangemaster staff located at the Ben Clark Training Center. Scopes of any type are not permitted.

When utilizing laser sights or a lighting system, it is the responsibility of the licensee to ensure the system is

operable, correctly attached to the firearm, and properly adjusted for accuracy."



http://www.riversidesheriff.org/pdf/...ccw-noform.pdf

I think the key is "without approval and subsequent inspection". It's not a blanket ban, it just needs to be authorized. That is a completely different conversation.

My question would be if you take a modified gun to your qual, they don't have a problem with it and authorize it for your permit, is that explicit approval?

[Firefox70066]

That rule is listed in the Riverside County application under the acknowledgment of restrictions, but it is not a state wide law. So it is a contract you are agreeing to that if you break you risk not being covered by your CCW if anything were to happen when it comes to criminal or civil liability. Other counties may have something similar regarding modification and others may not have any requirements. See below for the requirements for Riverside County since you mentioned Ben Clark:

"Absolutely no modifications shall be made to any weapon, without the approval, and subsequent inspection,
of the rangemaster staff located at the Ben Clark Training Center. Scopes of any type are not permitted.
When utilizing laser sights or a lighting system, it is the responsibility of the licensee to ensure the system is
operable, correctly attached to the firearm, and properly adjusted for accuracy."

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/pdf/...ccw-noform.pdf

Thanks for the info.

[LMan57]

How closely do they exam your firearm during there inspection?

[Firefox70066]

I think the key is "without approval and subsequent inspection". It's not a blanket ban, it just needs to be authorized. That is a completely different conversation.

My question would be if you take a modified gun to your qual, they don't have a problem with it and authorize it for your permit, is that explicit approval?

Good point, But when I qualified at Ben Clark they briefly inspected my firearms, so for certain modifications one would need to bring it to their attention.

[Firefox70066]

How closely do they exam your firearm during there inspection?

To be honest, I don't really remember...I just know it was brief, they didn't rack the slide or squeeze the trigger, I think they mainly verified the make and serial # of my weapons.

[LMan57]

To be honest, I don't really remember...I just know it was brief, they didn't rack the slide or squeeze the trigger, I think they mainly verified the make and serial # of my weapons.

Okay thanks

[2c5s]

any renewals receive their permits? My paper work was sent to admin almost a month ago.

Yes, renewal was for the end of March. Started the renewal process in mid Jan. Received my card in the mail on expiration.