Riverside

[GripMan12]

I get it, but I don't know your property like you do obviously. I'm just playing devils advocate and telling you what the CCW unit will say. 400 feet is a little more than a football field. Can't you see your house from the road? Wouldn't you notice a car that doesn't belong at your house and couldn't you just call the police from the road? If you do come up on someone on your driveway can't you just let them leave? You can't shoot to save property.

Those are all examples of questions they're gonna have. And they aren't gonna bother asking or inspecting your house. You need to clearly explain why this is such a risk if that's the route you want to go.

Yeah, I guess I'll just give up. You can't stop someone from robbing your house anyway. All you can do is stand there like a dummy and watch them drive away with your stuff. Hell, you might as well help them load it up.

Oh sure, I could call the sheriff and if they can even find my place they might get there in a half hour or so. Most of the time if I need someone to do a service at my house I need to drive down to the main paved road and lead them to my place.

[Sleighter]

Yeah, I guess I'll just give up. You can't stop someone from robbing your house anyway. All you can do is stand there like a dummy and watch them drive away with your stuff. Hell, you might as well help them load it up.

Oh sure, I could call the sheriff and if they can even find my place they might get there in a half hour or so. Most of the time if I need someone to do a service at my house I need to drive down to the main paved road and lead them to my place.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm trying to help you prepare so you CAN get one. But hopefully none of this matters in a couple of weeks.

[GripMan12]

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm trying to help you prepare so you CAN get one. But hopefully none of this matters in a couple of weeks.

Well, at 67 years old I don't think I'd stand much of a chance anyway. Heck, what does a 67 year old man need with Constitutional rights?

[383green]

Well, at 67 years old I don't think I'd stand much of a chance anyway. Heck, what does a 67 year old man need with Constitutional rights?

personally for willful violation of your civil rights. Wouldn't you love to live in his house after it's awarded to you to cover the punitive damages?

Ok, the chances of that particular outcome are quite low. But they're not zero. That's the wonderful thing about finally fighting a war in which the right to carry a weapon for self defense has been found to be a natural, individual, protected right. It's a game-changer. Once Peruta is finalized, the gloves come off. We stop just going after departments, and start going after individuals. The first one might be full of hubris and think he can thumb his nose at the judicial system. Once he has to write a personal check to fund our further litigation, or maybe even finds himself behind bars for contempt of court, I think that the rest of the issuing authorities will suddenly get a lot more cooperative.

Of course, it never has to go that far if issuing authorities simply fall into line with CA law and the Constitution. I wonder whether that will happen without one of CA's 58 Sheriffs volunteering to be the example.

[XDNINER]

Yes as soon as the all clear came I sat down with deputy aguirre he said my gc was just fine and didn't see any reason I won't be approved went and did my livescan same day at Temecula PD in the mall. Scheduled for Dec 6th ccw class and Dec 17th range qualifications. Only thing I kind of don't agree with is informing my work and having them fill out a "approval form" my boss is kind of a dick and my fate will rest in his hands

[383green]

Yes as soon as the all clear came I sat down with deputy aguirre he said my gc was just fine and didn't see any reason I won't be approved went and did my livescan same day at Temecula PD in the mall. Scheduled for Dec 6th ccw class and Dec 17th range qualifications.

Cool! Good luck, and I hope the rest of the process continues to go smoothly. I found Deputy Aguirre to be easy to talk to.

Only thing I kind of don't agree with is informing my work and having them fill out a "approval form" my boss is kind of a dick and my fate will rest in his hands

Yeah, I don't like that, either. Since my GC ("Self Defense") isn't work-related, I declined to fill out the employer notification form and requested that they not contact my employer. I work for a big megacorp, and I don't know how they would react to this sort of thing. I hope that they won't contact my employer at all. I will never carry, store or transport a weapon on company property without their explicit permission (and I presently have no intention of asking for it), so it's really none of their business.

[inbox485]

You don't seem to get it. As I said there is only one dirt road to my house and there is no other way in or out. What if I drive up and see someone robbing my place? If they are leaving I will meet them head on.

What good is a gun in my house going to do me?

First thing that comes to my mind is a drop safe with a rifle in it at the front of the driveway.

[GripMan12]

First thing that comes to my mind is a drop safe with a rifle in it at the front of the driveway.

A drop safe in the dirt?

[inbox485]

A drop safe in the dirt?

Some sort of burry tube that locks and would be a major project to extract. I've seen mods on surplus powder charge tubes (aluminum with rubber o-rings, long enough to have a rifle, and has large flared ends that can be cemented in) to add locks and cover with something like a utility plate. I'd consider it for a place like that. You could have backup documentation for something like a house fire as well in there.

[GripMan12]

Some sort of burry tube that locks and would be a major project to extract. I've seen mods on surplus powder charge tubes (aluminum with rubber o-rings, long enough to have a rifle, and has large flared ends that can be cemented in) to add locks and cover with something like a utility plate. I'd consider it for a place like that. You could have backup documentation for something like a house fire as well in there.

Or I could just keep a handgun in a locked box in the back of my van and the ammo in another separate box. I just have to tell the robbers to please wait while I unlock all and load up.

Same with the above idea. Just not practical. Either one.

[inbox485]

With a 400 foot driveway, I'm thinking you could manage to retrieve a gun in time. Read up on loaded container carry. You can have loaded mags and an unloaded gun in the same container in your car. For a bury tube, you could have a combo lock or a lock keyed to your house key, and since it is on your property, it can be left loaded. If I saw a guy at 300-400 feet with a rifle, I'd be getting real compliant. Just options if not having one in a holster is possible.

[inbox485]

My philosophy is that if you can have one in a holster, it should be there. If not, then having one you can get to faster than 911 can help you, that is the second best.

[GripMan12]

With a 400 foot driveway, I'm thinking you could manage to retrieve a gun in time. Read up on loaded container carry. You can have loaded mags and an unloaded gun in the same container in your car. For a bury tube, you could have a combo lock or a lock keyed to your house key, and since it is on your property, it can be left loaded. If I saw a guy at 300-400 feet with a rifle, I'd be getting real compliant. Just options if not having one in a holster is possible.

Just how long do you think it takes a car to go 400 feet?

[MURRIETA45]

Yes as soon as the all clear came I sat down with deputy aguirre he said my gc was just fine and didn't see any reason I won't be approved went and did my livescan same day at Temecula PD in the mall. Scheduled for Dec 6th ccw class and Dec 17th range qualifications. Only thing I kind of don't agree with is informing my work and having them fill out a "approval form" my boss is kind of a dick and my fate will rest in his hands

Hey XD... I'll be at the Dec 6th class too. When I had my interview, Deputy Yezzo wasn't quite sure if the 17th was the next qual date. I'm gonna assume it is. Hopefully there is still room.

Mark

[XDNINER]

Hey XD... I'll be at the Dec 6th class too. When I had my interview, Deputy Yezzo wasn't quite sure if the 17th was the next qual date. I'm gonna assume it is. Hopefully there is still room.

Mark

I emailed Deputy Aguirre to remind him to schedule me for range day and I got the 8 am time on the 17th. You might want to do the same to make sure you get put on the schedule