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[rwcole88]

Yeah. You're right ;_;. I'm coming to terms with reality :'). At least I have a really cool xmacro to shoot at the range until something changes so that I can add them onto the permit.

[Dvrjon]

Hello, guys! I wasn't sure where to post or ask this but:

Is it legal to carry an p365 xmacro with its 17rd mag in CA?

I understand it’s legal to own and use larger capacity magazines if they were purchased during freedom week. However, the xmacro came out only just a few months ago and I’m not quite sure if that ruling goes for it. I just purchased an off roster xmacro and am in the process of getting my ccw permit. This question was raised by a couple buddies of mine and now I’m not quite so confident if I can even legally CCW the xmacro now.

Thanks in advance, guys!

You can carry and use the Xmacro with magazines blocked to <10 rounds. You cannot use the 17 round magazines in CA because they were potentially illegally imported and certainly illegally received by you.

It is still illegal to possess and use LCMs in CA, however, enforcement of those provisions is enjoined pending litigation results.

The prohibitions on importing or receiving LCMs are not enjoined and you can be prosecuted under those provisions. Since the Xmacro didn’t exist prior to Freedom Week, you could not have legally imported or received the mags during that time. You would only have been able to import and receive them after Freedom Week leaving you without a defense. Because of this, I would recommend you not use the LCMs until you have them blocked.

[PewPewPew]

Sorry guys. Failed to mention that there was a mag block in the magazine. Does the law mention anything about it having the block to be permanent or is that a grey area?

[Dvrjon]

Permanent.

[jdr714]

Hello all. Here to vent my frustration...


-Submitted application 10/3/22
-Initial livescan done 10/12/22
CA completed 10/12/2022
FBI completed 10/12/2022
Firearms completed 10/14/2022
-Received email from OCSD on 10/14/2022 stating:
"Good morning, our records show you were live scanned on 10/12/22. The live scan was input in error. You must be live scanned using a new ATI number and not the original number. The results show that you were printed as a CCW Custodial officer and we cannot accept it this way. Please look over the live scan and ensure the technician enters the data as it is listed on the from. We have attached the form for your review."
With screenshot showing APP TYPE: Custodial Officer CCW
-Called place I got livescanned on 10/14/2022 and told them about the error. He submitted a new application or whatnot and gave me new ATI number. It's been 5 days an I continue to get "Applicant Transaction Not Found.
Please Contact the Agency that Requested the Background Check."

Have any of you gone through this before?

[Gavelams]

Hello all. Here to vent my frustration...


-Submitted application 10/3/22
-Initial livescan done 10/12/22
CA completed 10/12/2022
FBI completed 10/12/2022
Firearms completed 10/14/2022
-Received email from OCSD on 10/14/2022 stating:
"Good morning, our records show you were live scanned on 10/12/22. The live scan was input in error. You must be live scanned using a new ATI number and not the original number. The results show that you were printed as a CCW Custodial officer and we cannot accept it this way. Please look over the live scan and ensure the technician enters the data as it is listed on the from. We have attached the form for your review."
With screenshot showing APP TYPE: Custodial Officer CCW
-Called place I got livescanned on 10/14/2022 and told them about the error. He submitted a new application or whatnot and gave me new ATI number. It's been 5 days an I continue to get "Applicant Transaction Not Found.
Please Contact the Agency that Requested the Background Check."

Have any of you gone through this before?

[riderr]

Hello all. Here to vent my frustration...


-Submitted application 10/3/22
-Initial livescan done 10/12/22
CA completed 10/12/2022
FBI completed 10/12/2022
Firearms completed 10/14/2022
-Received email from OCSD on 10/14/2022 stating:
"Good morning, our records show you were live scanned on 10/12/22. The live scan was input in error. You must be live scanned using a new ATI number and not the original number. The results show that you were printed as a CCW Custodial officer and we cannot accept it this way. Please look over the live scan and ensure the technician enters the data as it is listed on the from. We have attached the form for your review."
With screenshot showing APP TYPE: Custodial Officer CCW
-Called place I got livescanned on 10/14/2022 and told them about the error. He submitted a new application or whatnot and gave me new ATI number. It's been 5 days an I continue to get "Applicant Transaction Not Found.
Please Contact the Agency that Requested the Background Check."

Have any of you gone through this before?

Follow up with the Livescan office and clarify the situation. Obviously, OCSD has nothing to do with it.

[PewPewPew]

Sorry to bring this topic back up again but I just thought of something in efforts to get some ccw use: in the xmacro (and other p365 models), the registered part is the FCU. What if I buy a regular p365 slide and module to swap the FCU from the xmacro into the p365 parts. Is that now legal?

[Dvrjon]

Sorry to bring this topic back up again but I just thought of something in efforts to get some ccw use: in the xmacro (and other p365 models), the registered part is the FCU. What if I buy a regular p365 slide and module to swap the FCU from the xmacro into the p365 parts. Is that now legal?

That wasn’t your problem, remember?

Hello, guys! I wasn't sure where to post or ask this but:

Is it legal to carry an p365 xmacro with its 17rd mag in CA?

I understand it’s legal to own and use larger capacity magazines if they were purchased during freedom week. However, the xmacro came out only just a few months ago and I’m not quite sure if that ruling goes for it.

If the mags are permanently blocked to < 10 rounds, your problem goes away.

Any other questions about whether your IA will approve that particular gun need to be asked of the IA.

From OCSD website:

All firearms submitted for listing on a CCW license are subject to approval by the CCW Licensing Unit.

A firearm may be legal to possess in California and NOT approved to list on the CCW.
“AR Pistols” and similar firearms are NOT allowed at this time.

MAGAZINE CAPACITY

The CCW license does not define magazine capacity, just the firearm model, serial number, and caliber. If the magazine and firearm are legal to possess in the State of California, and the firearm is approved to be listed on the license, a CCW permit holder may carry.

California firearms laws/regulations are subject to change. It is the responsibility of the owner/applicant to ensure the firearm and magazine are in compliance with California law at the time of carry.
Any violations or failure to adhere to state laws/regulations will result in immediate suspension and/or revocation of license.
**OCSD does not provide legal advice on firearms or related equipment**

[PewPewPew]

< 10 rounds, your problem goes away.

Any other questions about whether your IA will approve that particular gun need to be asked of the IA.

From OCSD website:

[9Cal_OC]

[Smedkcuf]

What if he uses a custom 3D printed 17rd mag that he could have printed or obtained during freedom week?

[Dvrjon]

What if he uses a custom 3D printed 17rd mag that he could have printed or obtained during freedom week?

So he would have created it before it was known to exist? Can you also print a metal spring and feed lips?

Doesn't matter...manufacturing an LCM is a misdemeanor with up to one year in jail.

[Citadelgrad87]

DO NOT do this. If you get your response in writing, and it's adverse, now you've solidified the "NO" for everyone, and I didn't ask you to do that.

If you're afraid, then don't carry it.

It's as if some of you have never dealt with bureaucracies before. If you push for an answer, you're going to get NO.

Same deal when 500 guys wanted to ask permission to carry legal mags right after freedom week.

[Dvrjon]

Only Sections (c) and (d) are enjoined from enforcement.