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  • #16
    QQQ
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2243

    Let me know what happens, and whether the CGF suggests trying to apply! For $20, I would be willing to submit an application. I'm 21, not a prohibited person, and living in Irvine.
    Last edited by QQQ; 10-23-2010, 11:02 PM.

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    • #17
      ripcurlksm
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 3146

      looking forward to updates.
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      • #18
        speedjunkie
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 932

        Originally posted by ripcurlksm
        looking forward to updates.
        +1

        Love to see Sheriff Hutchens forced to comply with CCW issuance to everyday people...
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        • #19
          lgm118icbm
          CGSSA Leader
          • Sep 2009
          • 1202

          Seriously? Orange County only has 9 sponsors so far?

          If I did it, you can too!!

          C'mon people!
          Every single person that is able should sponsor!
          Last edited by lgm118icbm; 10-29-2010, 1:23 PM. Reason: URL
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          • #20
            kegs
            Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 188

            I live in OC, over 21, squeeky clean record, and would be happy to apply and report feedback if need be.

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            • #21
              popndrop
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 2211

              I called Irvine PD - they basically told me that they won't give me one unless I have documented threat to my life, and one that would be considered an ongoing threat. They said i'd have better luck with the OCSD.

              PS - MADE MY CGF contribution for the CCW Initiative.
              Last edited by popndrop; 11-03-2010, 4:35 PM.

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              • #22
                BlindRacer
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 631

                Originally posted by popndrop
                I called Irvine PD - they basically told me that they won't give me one unless I have documented threat to my life, and one that would be considered an ongoing threat. They said i'd have better luck with the OCSD.
                How does one obtain documentation to an on going threat? I'm sure that you would have had to suffer actual physical harm, as well as some sort of note/phone message/email with specifics that there is a threat, and that it is a persistent one, that will not be stopping in the near future. Cause it seems that mere police reports of a threat are not sufficient (afaik from other posts).

                I doubt Hutchens would give you any more than what Irvine did. I'm pretty sure Hutchens will be one of the last holdouts along with LA's and SF's sheriffs.

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                • #23
                  IGOTDIRT4U
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 10861

                  Originally posted by Doheny
                  I'm pretty sure that Irvine issues their own. From their website:
                  Nope. They send you off to the sheriff, too.
                  "Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt

                  Would you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in Sac
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                  • #24
                    IGOTDIRT4U
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 10861

                    Originally posted by popndrop
                    I called Irvine PD - they basically told me that they won't give me one unless I have documented threat to my life, and one that would be considered an ongoing threat. They said i'd have better luck with the OCSD.

                    PS - MADE MY CGF contribution for the CCW Initiative.
                    Yep. But if one could look at who and how long they had theirs, it would make more sense.

                    It's like saying Culver City issues, but no one really can recall them issuing.
                    Last edited by IGOTDIRT4U; 11-03-2010, 5:57 PM.
                    "Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt

                    Would you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in Sac
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                    • #25
                      Phanatic
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2

                      Looking forward to more info on this!!!

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                      • #26
                        Doheny
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 13819

                        Originally posted by IGOTDIRT4U
                        Nope. They send you off to the sheriff, too.
                        Sounds like a case for CGF. They (Irvine) can't issue to some then tell others to go to the Sheriff. I have an email from the PD saying they have two issued.
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                        • #27
                          1BigPea
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1102

                          Sponsored Orange County...standing by for updates.
                          Originally Posted by Wherryj
                          I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                          • #28
                            luckystrike
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 4176

                            Im planning on applying for one in january.
                            anyone here from OC actually have a CCW?

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                            • #29
                              the_donald_
                              Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 481

                              Sponsored, waiting for the "all clear".



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                              • #30
                                dantodd
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 9360

                                Originally posted by Doheny
                                Sounds like a case for CGF. They (Irvine) can't issue to some then tell others to go to the Sheriff. I have an email from the PD saying they have two issued.
                                Nope. For the most part CGF is going to focus solely on the sheriffs and leave the cities alone. There are too many cities to deal with, each city effects a relatively small number of CGF's constituency and if CGF applies pressure they can completely escape by filing (g) and letting the sheriff handle all their apps.

                                If you know that Irvine issues but they just don't want to give you app etc. Just download the app on the CGF site, fill it out and mail it in, certified, return receipt. This will count as submitting your application and if they give you push back ask if they issue to anyone other than Peace Officers. If they do issue then they MUST accept your application. If they accept your application then they must act upon it in accordance with Guillory and Salute.

                                You would have to do all the footwork to ge them to act on the application though. It wouldn't be easy and if I were in your shoes I'd sit tight and wait for OC actions to start here. OR go to CalCCW or BillyJack and follow the "old" method of getting a CCW.
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