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[ontargetrange]

I know this page is far into the interior of the blog, but this is a load of #@*& for ONLY one Vendor supporter so far.

Anyone reading this please talk with your regular store or range in OC and ask why they have not stepped up to the plate on this subject.

All of you CCW holders ask your past/current/future instructors why they are not listed?? I guess they really only care about this when you are standing front of them with dollar bills and they are the only ones that can sign you off.

[hefedehefe]

I recently received my CCW; submitted to OCSD in Dec. Gunslut's post earlier in this thread has the numbers.
BTW, +1 for On Target Range, excellent folks and resources there, just bought an annual membership there to support them.

link?

[beemaze]

I posted this in another thread somewhere...

A doctor friend of mine recently received his CCW from the OC Sheriff. He is a resident of OC, and works in Riverside. His clinic was broken into several times and people have walked in off the street seeking drugs and threatening staff. So he had "good cause". In fact, I wrote him a "good moral character" letter late last year in support of his application.

[CHS]

A doctor friend of mine recently received his CCW from the OC Sheriff. He is a resident of OC, and works in Riverside. His clinic was broken into several times and people have walked in off the street seeking drugs and threatening staff. So he had "good cause". In fact, I wrote him a "good moral character" letter late last year in support of his application.

That's not exactly what we're trying to fight for here.

[beemaze]

That's not exactly what we're trying to fight for here.

Yes, I totally agree that "shall issue" is the ultimate goal.

For now, this is what is happening in Orange County at least, and it's a heck of alot better than what is happening in Los Angeles County. Clearly, Orange County "will issue" given "good cause." There clearly should be uniformity within the law as for what "good cause" is defined as, and should be applied equally throughout all Counties of the state. Hopefully, one day soon, "self defense" alone will be enough to satisfy "good cause" throughout all counties.

[zking]

can anyone in here from orange county review my "good cause" letter and let me know if i have a chance.... i also have 3 letters from LEOs stating they feel i should be issued a ccw...thanks

[OC-Indian]

I recently received my CCW; submitted to OCSD in Dec. Gunslut's post earlier in this thread has the numbers.
BTW, +1 for On Target Range, excellent folks and resources there, just bought an annual membership there to support them.

It would help others to know what "GC" statement you used and background? (Citizen, Military, etc...)

[BlindRacer]

I'm a civilian.
It's not a matter of what good cause statement I used since it wasn't 'boiler-plate,' rather my GC was specific for me and my justifications for a CCW.

I imagine if you web search deep enough, you might be able to find good cause statements of others that were accepted/approved for a CCW, but then again, those statements were specific for the individuals applying.

If you don't mind me asking, what was the 'theme' of your good cause. Just wondering what OCSD might be looking for.

For me personally, I'm 27, with a wife and 2 kids, who I would like to protect. I am also a photographer, and regularly carry around $4k+ worth of equipment in a relatively small, easy to carry bag.

I'm assuming that OCSD doesn't accept self defense alone yet, but would something like carrying $4k+ of equipment on a regular basis be enough? And if it were, would it only be for while I'd be working, or could it be at all times?

[1BigPea]

If you don't mind me asking, what was the 'theme' of your good cause. Just wondering what OCSD might be looking for.

For me personally, I'm 27, with a wife and 2 kids, who I would like to protect. I am also a photographer, and regularly carry around $4k+ worth of equipment in a relatively small, easy to carry bag.

I'm assuming that OCSD doesn't accept self defense alone yet, but would something like carrying $4k+ of equipment on a regular basis be enough? And if it were, would it only be for while I'd be working, or could it be at all times?

Just to point out how crazy Hutchen's CCW policy is, carrying 4k work of photography equipment might fly...but because you want to protect your wife and kids who are priceless that wouldn't. Just amazes me that there is more emphasis on personal property than lives. It's similar to people who carry large amounts of cash and get a CCW. Yet, if someone is stealing a 2k stereo out of a car you can't shoot them.

[CHS]

Just to point out how crazy Hutchen's CCW policy is, carrying 4k work of photography equipment might fly...but because you want to protect your wife and kids who are priceless that wouldn't. Just amazes me that there is more emphasis on personal property than lives. It's similar to people who carry large amounts of cash and get a CCW. Yet, if someone is stealing a 2k stereo out of a car you can't shoot them.

Exactly. That's one thing about our CCW policy that most people just don't seem to get.

In CA CCW's are issued in the vast majority in order to protect PROPERTY, not LIVES.

Then again.... Maybe you could bust out some old-school biblical stuff showing that your wife and/or daughter(s) are in fact property, and priceless, and maybe get away with it?

[Anchors]

Maybe you could bust out some old-school biblical stuff showing that your wife and/or daughter(s) are in fact property, and priceless, and maybe get away with it?

I lol'd haha.

Just to point out how crazy Hutchen's CCW policy is, carrying 4k work of photography equipment might fly...but because you want to protect your wife and kids who are priceless that wouldn't. Just amazes me that there is more emphasis on personal property than lives. It's similar to people who carry large amounts of cash and get a CCW. Yet, if someone is stealing a 2k stereo out of a car you can't shoot them.

What about regularly carrying around a $4,000 handgun?
Will that fly? I wouldn't want someone stealing it while I'm transporting it

(No, I don't have a handgun worth that much haha).

[Brianguy]

Are we mass applying to OCSD yet? Did you guys see the story about the woman that was almost raped in Laguna Hills a couple weeks ago? That was right by my house! I occasionally go for a walk late at night and there are some weirdos out here.

There are only 2 deputies assigned to Laguna Hills and half the time they're at 7-11 or a park chatting up all the other area units.

[BlindRacer]

Are we mass applying to OCSD yet? Did you guys see the story about the woman that was almost raped in Laguna Hills a couple weeks ago? That was right by my house! I occasionally go for a walk late at night and there are some weirdos out here.

There are only 2 deputies assigned to Laguna Hills and half the time they're at 7-11 or a park chatting up all the other area units.

Unfortunately I have not heard anything yet. I'm pretty sure it's going to be quite a while yet, for the OC. I'm expecting us to be one of the last holdouts. Probably not as much as LA, but probably pretty close.

I have a feeling that Hutchens is trying to get back at those who did not vote for her. The other two that ran for sheriff, ran primarily on a shall issue platform, and that pissed her off. So to get back at everyone who voted the other way, she's won't issue for as long as she can get away with it. This is just a guess, but I'm pretty sure that's what's going on.

[RSC]

I know this page is far into the interior of the blog, but this is a load of #@*& for ONLY one Vendor supporter so far.

Anyone reading this please talk with your regular store or range in OC and ask why they have not stepped up to the plate on this subject.

All of you CCW holders ask your past/current/future instructors why they are not listed?? I guess they really only care about this when you are standing front of them with dollar bills and they are the only ones that can sign you off.

Hi Gregg,

I might be late to the party, but rest assured I will remember which businesses supported the effort and will conduct my next purchases accordingly. To my utter surprise I just found out that OnTarget is the only vendor sponsor in Orange County (and has been for quite a while, what are the others doing???). I guess that means an easy decision for me where to take my business to.
PS: Please let your staff know that they do an awesome job, always polite, knowledgeable, helpful and no FUD.

Best Regards,
RSC

[luckystrike]

Are we mass applying to OCSD yet? Did you guys see the story about the woman that was almost raped in Laguna Hills a couple weeks ago? That was right by my house! I occasionally go for a walk late at night and there are some weirdos out here.

There are only 2 deputies assigned to Laguna Hills and half the time they're at 7-11 or a park chatting up all the other area units.

the next day she was arrested for admitting her story was fake.

I would also like to know when we are flooding them or whatever the plan is. im in.