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  • Anchors
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 5940

    Those denied statements seem to either be far stretched or mention defending others (non relatives).

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    • 1BigPea
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 1102

      Originally posted by HowardW56
      Orange County Denied Good Cause Statements (batch #1) can be found Here
      Thanks for providing approved and denied statements.
      Originally Posted by Wherryj
      I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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      • speedjunkie
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 932

        I see a lot of subjectivity on the Sheriff's part on who was approved and who was denied. Does anybody else see what I see or am i imagining things?
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        • HowardW56
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2003
          • 5901

          Originally posted by speedjunkie
          I see a lot of subjectivity on the Sheriff's part on who was approved and who was denied. Does anybody else see what I see or am i imagining things?
          You will find that in virtually every counties good cause statements...
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          • CHS
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2008
            • 11338

            Originally posted by speedjunkie
            I see a lot of subjectivity on the Sheriff's part on who was approved and who was denied. Does anybody else see what I see or am i imagining things?
            MAY. ISSUE.
            Please read the Calguns Wiki
            Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
            --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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            • Anchors
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2010
              • 5940

              From the few denials I can see, some of them are SO similar to some approved ones that the only difference that stood out was stating a need to "protect clients" or others (non-family members).

              I think that is a sure way to turn off whoever is really making the decision as they'll probably think that you should go through the state and get a permit to practice personal protection.

              I probably will hold off until it becomes less of a gamble.

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              • Johnny Rico
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 6

                Looks to me one of the easiest slam dunk ways without having to go through some BS about owning a certain type of business looks to become as little as a private pilot.

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                • Doheny
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13819

                  Has anyone attempted a CCW in OC since the CG statements were made available? Any update on OC?
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                  • Hanse Davion
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 525

                    I also saw on this thread that Newport Beach PD would issue, is that true? Can someone confirm this and tell me if there is anything different about going through the Newport Beach PD instead of the OCSD?
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                    • Personmans
                      Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 144

                      Originally posted by Doheny
                      I'm pretty sure that Irvine issues their own. From their website:
                      Can anyone confirm that Irvine issues their own? The website does make it seem that way, but I would like to confirm it.

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                      • Doheny
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 13819

                        Yes Irvine does issue, but last time I checked a few years ago they only had three issued.


                        Originally posted by Personmans
                        Can anyone confirm that Irvine issues their own? The website does make it seem that way, but I would like to confirm it.
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                        • Personmans
                          Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 144

                          Originally posted by Doheny
                          Yes Irvine does issue, but last time I checked a few years ago they only had three issued.

                          Sorry for the 20 questions, but:
                          Is it worth talking to Sgt. Bill Whalen? Have you talked with him at all? Also, do you know how many applied vs were issued? (or issued vs denied)

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                          • Doheny
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13819

                            /\

                            I can't remember who I spoke with via email. He was polite and professional but made it pretty clear that they have a very limited view of what GC is. Not sure of their ratio of issued/denied. Frankly, even as restrictive as OC Sheriff is, I think you'd have a better chance with them (the sheriff.)
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                            • Personmans
                              Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 144

                              Originally posted by Doheny
                              /\

                              I can't remember who I spoke with via email. He was polite and professional but made it pretty clear that they have a very limited view of what GC is. Not sure of their ratio of issued/denied. Frankly, even as restrictive as OC Sheriff is, I think you'd have a better chance with them (the sheriff.)
                              I shot them an email to see if I can get some information. I'm really interested in applying if there is a chance it will be accepted. Thanks for your help.

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                              • Doheny
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 13819

                                /\ let us know what they say!

                                thx
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