Los Angeles

[AYAAL]

Here are some reasons for not carrying a modified pistol:

https://aliengearholsters.com/blog/modifying-concealed-carry-gun/

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/can-i-modify-my-firearm/

When I took training courses, I was told you are judged by a jury of your "peers". In California, that is a scary proposition. They may say you modified your gun to make it easier to kill someone etc. Just my opinion.

Is red dot consider modified pistol ?


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[thethreegs]

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[thethreegs]

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[CCWFacts]

I'll try to keep this short. Basically I work in protection, where I am consistently around high risk people.

You should apply. I don't know how LASD handles EP as a GC but it's worth asking them. Are you a licensed PI or something like that? LASD may have rules specifically for that situation. If you want a CCW in LA you're going to have to put in some effort to research that.

In section 2 of the LASD CCW application it asks, "Are you now, or have you been, a party to a lawsuit in the last five years? If yes, please explain."

I am a part of the Franklin Armory Title 1 lawsuit, I haven't heard much about it recently. I figure be safe and list it but would it have any negative effect on my application?

Yes put it in. The only lawsuits I would leave out are those consumer class action lawsuits where they send you a coupon for $1.50 for Subway.

Paladin, first wanted to say thank you for all that you do to help your fellow man.

Yes thanks to Paladin! If the average CalGunner had even 5% of the level of effort and commitment Paladin has there would be an awful lot more people here with CCWs.

For me, I want to apply but it appears I would have to apply to LAPD first and get rejected which looks to be hundreds of dollars and a record of a ccw rejection. I just have my skepticism since where I live, statistically, is probably in the lower ranges of crime even though there is plenty of it. I DO go on 10+ mile early morning hikes once a month or so. I just have a hard time believing that would grant me the ability to ccw!

You should apply. Do it. I'm not familiar with the LAPD process but I don't think all the fees are due for the initial denial. Document your activities and make a strong application.

The price of applying is equal to a few boxes of ammo. Come on, are you serious about this or you just want to post about it?

[thethreegs]

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[dazz397]

Is red dot consider modified pistol ?


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[CCWFacts]

I am thinking of applying. Honestly, at this point it's just the money barrier. I don't want to risk $200 in LAPD denial fees that is guaranteed only to MAYBE get denied at LASD.

I agree, money is an issue.

The costs can be high.

LASD permit fees: $30 + $120

Mailing costs: $20

LiveScan: $130

Training: $200 to $350

Training ammo: $100

Driving to interview, plus driving to training: can be several hours, plus a couple days time

Total: Up to $750, plus all the costs of driving and time.

Plus add on for LAPD. I couldn't find LAPD's cost but I'm pretty sure you don't pay the whole $150 for the denial. Someone else on this thread who has gone through LAPD must have posted about that.

[GoobyMcPanderson]

[CCWFacts]

I'm happy to hear you're going to apply.

You will mail in only your printed application, your check for $30, and copies of your proof of residence (vehicle reg) and a copy of your DL. They may or may not accept vehicle reg by itself as proof of residence. If they need something else they'll tell you on the phone probably.

Certainly do NOT mail in original documents such as your original vehicle reg or DL.

[weezy675]

I'm happy to hear you're going to apply.

You will mail in only your printed application, your check for $30, and copies of your proof of residence (vehicle reg) and a copy of your DL. They may or may not accept vehicle reg by itself as proof of residence. If they need something else they'll tell you on the phone probably.

Certainly do NOT mail in original documents such as your original vehicle reg or DL.

With the LASD process, I thought the only time you need to bring the Required Documents (DL, birth certificate, proof of residency, etc.) is when you have an interview scheduled and you bring them to the interview. Here's the language from LASD's site:

"The following documents are required to continue through the interview process. Any required document not provided, will result in a cancelled interview and will need to be re-scheduled."

So logic would say that you would have to have a scheduled interview in order for it to be "cancelled" or "rescheduled". That is, if you fail to bring your Required Documents.

I thought when you mail your completed DOJ application to LASD, you just need the completed, signed application along with any good cause supporting documents and the $30 check.

If this is not the case, what happens when you don't include copies of the Required Documents along with your initial DOJ application?

Thanks for any clarification.

[GoobyMcPanderson]

I'm happy to hear you're going to apply.

You will mail in only your printed application, your check for $30, and copies of your proof of residence (vehicle reg) and a copy of your DL. They may or may not accept vehicle reg by itself as proof of residence. If they need something else they'll tell you on the phone probably.

Certainly do NOT mail in original documents such as your original vehicle reg or DL.

Alrighty thank you
I greatly appreciate the info

[Paladin]

For those applying directly with LASD you only have to pay $30 prior to a Good Cause decision. If they deny you for insufficient GC, that’s all you pay.

https://lasd.org/ccw/

[SavageShooter40]

I'm happy to hear you're going to apply.

You will mail in only your printed application, your check for $30, and copies of your proof of residence (vehicle reg) and a copy of your DL. They may or may not accept vehicle reg by itself as proof of residence. If they need something else they'll tell you on the phone probably.

Certainly do NOT mail in original documents such as your original vehicle reg or DL.

LASD website does not state to send documents with application. Is it advised to do so? Wonder if this is why I haven't heard anything for about 3 weeks. But I also dropped it off at a station vs mailing it in.

[thethreegs]

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[weezy675]

LASD website does not state to send documents with application. Is it advised to do so? Wonder if this is why I haven't heard anything for about 3 weeks. But I also dropped it off at a station vs mailing it in.

Same, I did not include any of the Required Documents besides the Good Cause supporting docs. I mailed mine on 3/24 and tracking showed it was delivered. Check has not been cashed yet.

Also wondering if the SPAM/robo block feature on my cell phone has anything to do with it as I've read they call from an Unknown number.

Thanks to Paladin, CCWFacts, and this thread for providing the information. This helped me decide to go ahead and apply with a Light Green GC. Like they've stated repeatedly, take it seriously, put in the time andy our best effort into the GC statement and supporting documents. Worse case, I lose $30 and can help others with my data points.