Los Angeles

[Guninator]

it was taking 1 year before this, now it ll take at least 3-5 years ? floodgates are open and thousands of people gonna apply for CCW starting next monday.

To begin with, yes, the flood of new applicants will slow the process. But now they don't have to grade all those GC essays, which is surely a big bottleneck (in OC, my CCW investigator said her boss reads every single GC statement). And now they will be subject to meritorious lawsuits if they take a year to give you a permit. Rights delayed are rights denied. They are going to have to commit more personnel to their CCW Unit if they don't want endless lawsuits and the Trump 2.0 DOJ's Civil Rights Division to ram endoscopes up their posteriors!

I suspect at least some sheriffs in CA (not AV) are happy they won't have to deal with the good cause analysis anymore. Less man hours per application for those counties that were de facto shall issue anyway (which, surprisingly, was over half of California counties).

[EDRB]

Surely with the outcome from the court and AG's statement applying through LAPD is now good to go and they don't have 1000's of applicants to work through.

[LrdVaderZ]

With GC statement removed, the process can be at least partially automated with an online system like what OC and other states use, I think it's called Permitium - it should be able to handle not just clerical stuff but stuff like background checks, since most of those are just checks through relevant databases, which would free up CCW personnel to handle more interviews (though now I don't see why they'd need them, since GC is gone)

[Baja Daze]

Surely with the outcome from the court and AG's statement applying through LAPD is now good to go and they don't have 1000's of applicants to work through.

I just came here to post this! LASD was already a year behind, now the floodgates have been opened and soon permit renewals will begin too. And IIRC the LA County Board of Supervisors is NOT adding to the LASD budget which has inhibited hiring, so how the hell is LASD going to process this soon to be tsunami of CCW applications?

LAPD Chief Michele Moore hates CCW and since LASD dropped the requirement of getting denied by LAPD first, I bet the CCW guys in the Gang and Narcotics Division, Gun Unit (213) 486-5360 are really bored, well at least for a few more days. I am going to call Monday and request an appointment to submit my application.

Let's see what stupid games LAPD wants to play....

[FreshTapCoke]

I think the law allows police departments to defer entirely to the Sheriff's department, so they have cover to keep on doing what they're doing.

[ProRoad]

Interview

With GC statement removed, the process can be at least partially automated with an online system like what OC and other states use, I think it's called Permitium - it should be able to handle not just clerical stuff but stuff like background checks, since most of those are just checks through relevant databases, which would free up CCW personnel to handle more interviews (though now I don't see why they'd need them, since GC is gone)

[analyze]

Was your GC back then in the green? Could've been why the deputy didn't even bother asking about it...

Thankfully, such a cause no longer matters.

[ProRoad]

GC colors

Was your GC back then in the green? Could've been why the deputy didn't even bother asking about it...

Thankfully, such a cause no longer matters.

My GC was a smattering of a bunch of stuff, I work in a crappy area, often at night, have a nice car, travel to rural areas. Def not strong for a GC so that was always the worry. It was clear to me that was not her concern, meeting me and getting answers to the questionnaire was her concern. Initial assessment.

[Baja Daze]

I think the law allows police departments to defer entirely to the Sheriff's department, so they have cover to keep on doing what they're doing.

I don't recall LAPD ever doing that, they just reject everyone, and IIRC LAPD does not have a signed MOU with LASD.

[Maustro]

I applied with LASD 8 years ago and never heard back. I have had the new app filled out for the past 3 months, but with this recent ruling, I'm wondering whether I should leave the good cause block empty, or just fill it in with "Self defense". It's probably too soon to know, but wondering what others are thinking, since it's now unconstitutional to require a GC statement.

[phant0omx]

Does the Bruen case change having to apply to the city agency first, waiting for a denial letter, then applying with the LASD?

I am in Arcadia where we have our own PD, so from what I understand, I need to apply for CCW with them first, before applying with LASD. Searching for any info for CCW in my city has very few results, I've only seen a couple of posts saying they won't issue.

[awiner]

Los Angeles (update 12-01-2018) *** Time to Apply***

Does the Bruen case change having to apply to the city agency first, waiting for a denial letter, then applying with the LASD?

I am in Arcadia where we have our own PD, so from what I understand, I need to apply for CCW with them first, before applying with LASD. Searching for any info for CCW in my city has very few results, I've only seen a couple of posts saying they won't issue.

No, this does not change that. You can apply directly with LASD as long as you are a resident of LA County/City.

Bruen changes only Good Cause no longer being part of the process. As well as the scrutiny courts now must use when judging 2A cases.

[Sure Shot 45]

Current 1 year plus timeframe is not reasonable.

[JTizel]

Current 1 year plus timeframe is not reasonable.

[MattyT]

If AV was smart he would refuse to process CCW apps from residents in cities with their own LE agency. That would spread out the work load and probably reduce wait times.