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  • #31
    Rusty_Buckhorn
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 1124

    Originally posted by Rhythm of Life
    The prohibition of alcohol turned pick pockets into millionaires, the prohibition of marijuana is doing the same.

    Very true.... and not one of them was for ending prohibition, either.

    Maybe the ones here, who are against lagalization, are pot dealers

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    • #32
      BayAreaShooter
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2010
      • 5054



      I'm going to leave myself out of this one.
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      • #33
        21SF
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 3497

        OMG your killing me...

        Originally posted by Lrchops
        If you look at crime statistics for major metropolitan areas, most of the shootings and home invasions are marijuana related. That because its illegal creating an inflated price tag and a black market Pot is not trivial. Kids are now learning that marijuana is ok. It is not ok. It is a brain altering substance that dumbs people and causes lung cancer. Actually, there has not bee na single case of lung cancer in umm...3000+ years of its use.

        The THC contents are high and it has absolutely no health benefits. It is a cure for NOTHING. LMAO, Close minded much? its actually been shown to cure 200+ ailments. Scientist in spain have shown it shrinks brain cancer cells.How come there are huge campaigns against the tobacco companies? Yet Marijuana is more toxic to the body, causes lung cancerUm evidence please, and inhibits a persons abilities to drive and operate equipment.like alcohol which is legal, i rather get in the car with someone stone out of their mind than someone drunk Yet there is no left wing campaign against marijuana, just the cigarette companies.
        How many people die in marijuana car accidents?

        The activists who love to smoke marijiuana hate the cigarette companies?? How does that make sense?

        Also the grow process is an environmental hazard and destroys property with huge mold problems. Only because its ilegal and people go into the wilderness and dump chemicals, pesticides, etc.

        So I have a career job and a second business. The government taxes the hell out of me and I can barely hold my head above water. I do everything legal, yet I lost my house, took a cut in pay, and still work full time.

        The jack hole down the street at the marijuana collective is raking in millions at a non-profit rate. He is stoned and collects welfare while he drives a BMW 735. HE can afford the $15k a month lease on his space because that is chump change for him. He sells marijuana, it is not DONATION.

        98% of the people i come into contact with who have a physicians card have headaches, back pain, or attention deficit disorder. I have only met about 2% who actually have a serious ailment like cancer. Most cancer patients undergo radiation and Kemotherapy and do not smoke marijuana. The whole thing is a sham!
        if so many people want it why is it ilegal in a free country?



        Originally posted by Lrchops
        Can't compare booze to pot. Not everyone drinks booze to get drunk. Everyone who smokes pot smokes it to get high! this is the funniest part, LMAO!!!! alcohol kills MANY more brain cells than marijuana at any rate!!!! Bottom line is this,,,,Marijuana advocates used the MEDICAL angle to move 10 steps closer to legalizing weed. It is an excuse that is highly abused just so people can smoke pot. I don't care if you smoke pot. You cannot lead a productive life smoking pot and you put yourself at risk of lung cancer and brain cell death. Which is why im brain dead and still can type. That is your thing, so go for it. But don't support a lie that it is medicine. It is not medicine. IF it were medicine, you would not smoke it!!!

        Not only that SEACOW, you defend pot as being harmless, yet you prove my point that the whole medicinal thing is a scam. Because you do not focus on any of the medicinal qualities. You focus only on MORALE issues. The law does not address MORALE issues with pot.

        I for one will not work around any dumb nut who smokes pot. I don't like being around tranquilized people. I especially do not care for the message being pushed on our young people. The left wing politicians are eating this crap up for votes.
        The only thing we can do for the young ones is to explain to them the risks like sex and everything else in life...It will stunt your development if consumed to early in life.But so can cigs and coffee
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        Originally posted by keenkeen
        "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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        • #34
          21SF
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 3497

          Originally posted by Rhythm of Life
          Marinol lacks CBN and CBDs, unlike the bud.

          The prohibition of alcohol turned pick pockets into millionaires, the prohibition of marijuana is doing the same.
          I forgot to mention those, naturally occuring chemicals in our brain....do we have natural alcohols in our brain?
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          Originally posted by keenkeen
          "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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          • #35
            kel-tec-innovations
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 3931

            Originally posted by Lrchops
            These marijuana outlets are making millions of dollars in TAX FREE cash.
            Last time I checked it was NOT tax free.
            Last edited by kel-tec-innovations; 02-28-2011, 3:54 PM.
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            • #36
              Jack L
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Oct 2010
              • 1721

              Pot is harmless? not so. Ask Willie Nelson or any long term user who suffers from it's chronic unhealthy effects. Smoking anything that has particulates that go into your lungs causes harm. The abuse of pot is like abusing anything else, you start to become less productive and pretty much are just buzzed. Some pot sellers add nasty things to it so you get buzzed, mainly Mexican cartels lately with Mexican grown pot. Their pot is the worst.

              To use pot as a medicine, one would have to determine the strength of the product which would not be smoked but taken as a liquid or a capsule form. The strength would have to be adjusted to your weight like any medication is. This would be after the product strength is determined and research decides what amount you would need for your weight. No doctor who cares about the long term health of his/her patients would prescribe a product you smoke. As it stands, the use of pot as a medicine is as much for a recreational high as it is for pain or stress relief. It's use is unscientific at this point because few if any pharmaceutical companies and researchers have taken it serious or invested in it's future. Until the feds decide it will be ok, it's basically a crap shoot. If you grow your own or know someone that grows it, at least you would know what it was fertilized with or if there were any additives. But unless you use a vaporizer, good luck in the long term taking it into your lungs.

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              • #37
                kel-tec-innovations
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 3931

                Originally posted by Jack L
                Pot is harmless? not so. Ask Willie Nelson or any long term user who suffers from it's chronic unhealthy effects. Smoking anything that has particulates that go into your lungs causes harm. The abuse of pot is like abusing anything else, you start to become less productive and pretty much are just buzzed. Some pot sellers add nasty things to it so you get buzzed, mainly Mexican cartels lately with Mexican grown pot. Their pot is the worst.

                To use pot as a medicine, one would have to determine the strength of the product which would not be smoked but taken as a liquid or a capsule form. The strength would have to be adjusted to your weight like any medication is. This would be after the product strength is determined and research decides what amount you would need for your weight. No doctor who cares about the long term health of his/her patients would prescribe a product you smoke. As it stands, the use of pot as a medicine is as much for a recreational high as it is for pain or stress relief. It's use is unscientific at this point because few if any pharmaceutical companies and researchers have taken it serious or invested in it's future. Until the feds decide it will be ok, it's basically a crap shoot. If you grow your own or know someone that grows it, at least you would know what it was fertilized with or if there were any additives. But unless you use a vaporizer, good luck in the long term taking it into your lungs.
                Breathing Southern California is harmful, everything is harmful. Including shooting alot of rounds and breathing in lead fumes. You see signs everywhere "According to the state of California substance used in.... this building, fumes etc. etc. causes cancers"
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                • #38
                  Hopalong
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2436

                  I thought people were not supposed to operate a motor vehicle while they were under the influence of any mind altering substance

                  Whether it was alcohol, prescription medication, or marijuana

                  I guess in this case marijuana is considered a prescription medication

                  Can't they be tested and given a DUI?

                  Doctors who give out these prescription medications like candy should come under more scrutiny

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                  • #39
                    kel-tec-innovations
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 3931

                    Originally posted by 1lostinspace
                    I am for Weed been used as medicine but it should have a limit, you should be able to grow it, have a scale or anything that would allow you to sale it. There need to be a pill made just like every other pain killer out there. This would stop a lot of the home invasions and other drug related crime. I also think there should be an age limit like alcohol.
                    Age limit is 18.


                    HS 11361. (a) Every person 18 years of age or over who hires, employs, or uses a minor in unlawfully transporting, carrying, selling, giving away, preparing for sale, or peddling any marijuana, who unlawfully sells, or offers to sell, any marijuana to a minor, or who furnishes, administers, or gives, or offers to furnish, administer, or give any marijuana to a minor under 14 years of age, or who induces a minor to use marijuana in violation of law shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a period of three, five, or seven years.

                    (b) Every person 18 years of age or over who furnishes, administers, or gives, or offers to furnish, administer, or give, any marijuana to a minor 14 years of age or older shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a period of three, four, or five years.

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                    • #40
                      21SF
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3497

                      Any smoke has carcinogens and can irritate lung tissue...Willie Nelson LMAO.

                      Seeds where found in egyptian tombs man has been cultivating and consuming cannibis for thousands of years. No one has died.

                      Ask steve jobs if it only creats losers? or any famous musician. Lots of very successful people consume cannibis.

                      Lots of FUD on the matter...for anyone interested a good movie is "The Union".
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                      Originally posted by keenkeen
                      "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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                      • #41
                        theseacow
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1565

                        Originally posted by Jack L
                        Pot is harmless? not so. Ask Willie Nelson or any long term user who suffers from it's chronic unhealthy effects. Smoking anything that has particulates that go into your lungs causes harm. The abuse of pot is like abusing anything else, you start to become less productive and pretty much are just buzzed. Some pot sellers add nasty things to it so you get buzzed, mainly Mexican cartels lately with Mexican grown pot. Their pot is the worst.

                        To use pot as a medicine, one would have to determine the strength of the product which would not be smoked but taken as a liquid or a capsule form. The strength would have to be adjusted to your weight like any medication is. This would be after the product strength is determined and research decides what amount you would need for your weight. No doctor who cares about the long term health of his/her patients would prescribe a product you smoke. As it stands, the use of pot as a medicine is as much for a recreational high as it is for pain or stress relief. It's use is unscientific at this point because few if any pharmaceutical companies and researchers have taken it serious or invested in it's future. Until the feds decide it will be ok, it's basically a crap shoot. If you grow your own or know someone that grows it, at least you would know what it was fertilized with or if there were any additives. But unless you use a vaporizer, good luck in the long term taking it into your lungs.


                        Pot is harmless. If you are concerned with the smoking aspect of it, then use a vaporizer. Should smoking anything be illegal? Doctors do not prescribe pot. They can't since its illegal on the federal level. They can however recommend its use under California law. A doctor will recommend that it be taken orally or vaporized.

                        Pot does not contain any addictive chemicals. If someone is addicted to pot, then it is a mental addiction and this can happen with anything.

                        Some of the most motivated and successful people I know use pot recreationally. They also drink recreationally, and have other hobbies they enjoy. If you enjoy it, and its not harming others, it should be your choice. I have yet to see any logical argument on why pot should be illegal.
                        Last edited by theseacow; 02-28-2011, 4:15 PM. Reason: .
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                        • #42
                          Chris M
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1771

                          Originally posted by theseacow
                          I have yet to see any logical argument on why pot should be illegal.
                          How's this?



                          Are you convinced yet?

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                          • #43
                            theseacow
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 1565

                            Originally posted by Chris M
                            How's this?



                            Are you convinced yet?
                            You have found the missing link to the prohibitionist's argument. You can't argue with that. I'm sold!




                            lol
                            what

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                            • #44
                              21SF
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 3497

                              HAHAHA^^^^ MMM Kay?

                              Seriously though it scared me to have closed minded individuals as cops.
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                              Originally posted by keenkeen
                              "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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                              • #45
                                iskra31
                                Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 476

                                Originally posted by Chris M
                                How's this?



                                Are you convinced yet?
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                                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                                Frontstuffers!!!!!!!

                                Originally posted by G1500
                                I wonder if the holdup is because Gene's package is way too big and the people at the clerks office cant handle it all......

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