MERGED THREADS "Bullet Button Assault Weapon" Regs

[dieselpower]

Your kidding right?

Page two of the flowchart actually list in appendix c AK series weapons and non AR weapons are also listed in appendix A.

There are only 3 categories of AW.

Again

Cat 1: Roberti-Roos list
Cat 2: Kasler List (series weapons)
Cat 3: AW by feature, which includes BB rifles.

I got no dog in this fight.

[lrdchivalry]

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs

This

[Clif]

None of which gives credibility to a category system in the law. That is what we use, not them.

Ok how about

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs

This ^^^^?

[lrdchivalry]

This ^^^^?

Kind of blows you notion of more than 3 categories of AW out of the water now doesn't it?

[Clif]

Kind of blows you notion of more than 3 categories of AW out of the water now doesn't it?

That's because they haven't updated. It specifically says cat 3 often called sb 23, what we have is NOT sb 23 AW

[Clif]

Kind of blows you notion of more than 3 categories of AW out of the water now doesn't it?

How can you dispell the notion that since law hasn't deleted "detachable magazines" in lew of "fixed magazines", that they are not different AWs?

[meno377]

Ok how about


This ^^^^?

Completely different. Banned by the use of a cartridge. Doesn't matter what type of action.

WIKI

[Virginian]

Truth is, Trump will appoint between 1 to 4 Supreme Court justices in his first term. I'd rate the odds of any of this crap, back to Roberti Roos, surviving that Court as under zero... if in fact the field of firearms regulation is not fully taken over by the Federal before then.
Best advice for the boys at DOJ is to add the feature "able to accept and fire a metallic cartridge" while they still have the authority. However short lived.

[lrdchivalry]

That's because they haven't updated. It specifically says cat 3 often called sb 23, what we have is NOT sb 23 AW

Actually, it is still current. 30515 has been amended to now included BB rifles in the category of AW by feature.

[Clif]

Actually, it is still current. 30515 has been amended to now included BB rifles in the category of AW by feature.

How can you say it is the same when detachable magazine is still in the law but just no longer for rifles? That means they changed the category of rifles only. And left everything else the same.

[Virginian]

Completely different. Banned by the use of a cartridge. Doesn't matter what type of action.



WIKI

Forever disappointed that no body wildcatted a very slightly necked down round and named it the 49er....

[Clif]

Forever disappointed that no body wildcatted a very slightly necked down round and named it the 49er....

Look at 50 DTC

[meno377]

Forever disappointed that no body wildcatted a very slightly necked down round and named it the 49er....

.416 Barrett.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.416_Barrett

[Virginian]

Look at 50 DTC

It was all in the name.. ;-)

[lrdchivalry]

How can you dispell the notion that since law hasn't deleted "detachable magazines" in lew of "fixed magazines", that they are not different AWs?

Just because the term detachable magazine is listed in the PC does not create a separate category of AW. The word detachable is mentioned in 30515 in the section on pistols and shotguns, however, that does not create a separate category of AW. All it states is that detachable magazine is a feature that could make it an AW if it meets other criteria as well..

Example is: (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine. This doesn't make it a category 5, 7 or 10 AW. It makes it a category 3 AW by feature, which is the ability to accept a detachable magazine.