MERGED THREADS "Bullet Button Assault Weapon" Regs

[Drew Eckhardt]

They are asking for pictures, the same upper used over and over will be kinda obvious.

Who doesn't buy multiples when they get a good deal?

[Cokebottle]

Can't find any info on stripped lowers and the RAW reg. If someone had one this year or earlier, and was waiting to buy parts to complete it, would that qualify for RAW status later or do the lower have to assembled into a fully operation gun during 2016. Kind of tough if someone have several lowers to build.

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4 - A stripped AR-15 lower receiver when sold at a California gun store is not a semiautomatic firearm. (The action type among other things is undetermined)

[tonyxcom]

Anyone see this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k1Grb8o9nM

Was going to go featureless but this cold be another option.

Forward to 1:40 for the "we got bush" moment.

Looks viable, just need to disable the bolt hold open to drop a step.

[God Bless America]

That sounds good, now actually quote what a "violation of the AW law" penalizes you with. Specifically a law that says if you remove the bullet button, you will suffer X consequence. I doubt you can find one because it doesn't exist.

If you register with a bullet button, the registration is accepted and you remove the bullet button, what penalty will you incur if caught?

It's the part about manufacturing or assembling an AW. You look up the section and penalty. It exists whether you want it to or not.

So you're pulling yours off, right? Post pics!

[Crosshair-V]

Forward to 1:40 for the "we got bush" moment.

Looks viable, just need to disable the bolt hold open to drop a step.

yep but pretty much a step that needs to be done on any design since law requires the upper to be opened.

hope these guys get these done.

[gdt82]

They'll consider you breaking their rules a revocation of your AW registration. Now you are holding an un-registered AW. They do not need the law to specify removing/modifying your BB. They make the rules for the AW Club and will kick you out if you try to get fancy.

Sadly, this is probably the route they will take. If one follows the penal code for the new law, you see that 30515 defines assault weapons, 30680 specifically exempts from penalty those who meet certain criteria (registration) and 30900 allows the DOJ to set up regulations to administer said registration. So if you violate the terms of the contract so to speak, they could revoke your registration, which instantly makes your firearm an unregistered AW, at which point you are in violation of 30515.

[ifilef]

That sounds good, now actually quote what a "violation of the AW law" penalizes you with. Specifically a law that says if you remove the bullet button, you will suffer X consequence. I doubt you can find one because it doesn't exist.

If you register with a bullet button, the registration is accepted and you remove the bullet button, what penalty will you incur if caught?

As I stated earlier, that's a good one, but they'll probably find something in which to charge you that is presently unknown to this poster.

[Sousuke]

Sadly, this is probably the route they will take. If one follows the penal code for the new law, you see that 30515 defines assault weapons, 30680 specifically exempts from penalty those who meet certain criteria (registration) and 30900 allows the DOJ to set up regulations to administer said registration. So if you violate the terms of the contract so to speak, they could revoke your registration, which instantly makes your firearm an unregistered AW, at which point you are in violation of 30515.

Is there a system of revoking registration? I don't see anything that says anything about that.

[BajaJames83]

If they try to create a new class of assault weapons I'm probably not even going to bother with registration.

I am almost at the point of reverting everything back and just complying with federal law. These laws we have bent over backwards to comply with over and over and they keep making it more difficult. They will not stop criminals...

[Flyron]

Forward to 1:40 for the "we got bush" moment.

Looks viable, just need to disable the bolt hold open to drop a step.

Innovation trumps it all! [emoji1417][emoji1417]

[John Browning]

These regulations should be destroyed in court. I'm happy to pitch in financially to make that happen.

From a more practical standpoint, after reading the regulations, compliance and registration will hover somewhere around 5%. There is no reason for anyone to register if they can't get the "benefits" of RAW ownership. Go featureless, put on your regular mag release, and tell the DOJ to go get ****ed.

I'm glad I went featureless. I might look at the new mag lock products out there. I will not register a single thing after seeing this garbage. They want way too much information about the registrant, along with high quality digital photos? No way.

[God Bless America]

Such lawful penalty clearly does not exist,

You keep convincing yourself of that.

If it was "clear" we would not have 10 pages of posts.

If it's only "clear" to you, well...

[cyborg]

Post-registration. That could be correct, unless that is considered a modification.

They'll consider you breaking their rules a revocation of your AW registration. Now you are holding an un-registered AW. They do not need the law to specify removing/modifying your BB. They make the rules for the AW Club and will kick you out if you try to get fancy.

Exactly, and then there's one less rifle in circulation.

[John Browning]

I am almost at the point of reverting everything back and just complying with federal law. These laws we have bent over backwards to comply with over and over and they keep making it more difficult. They will not stop criminals...

I'm right there with you brother. This is total BS that goes way beyond any reasonable expectations. Any thoughts I had of trying to play by the rules and register went right out the window. I won't register a thing. There are plenty of other ways to comply with the law and not register. I hope that the mass civil disobedience over this law makes it unenforceable.

[penguinman]

Forward to 1:40 for the "we got bush" moment.

Looks viable, just need to disable the bolt hold open to drop a step.

Luckily enough for us, Franklin Armory already has that covered.