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  • cgseanp1
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4651



    My last 3 purchases.


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    • crufflers
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2011
      • 12723

      Originally posted by cgseanp1


      My last 3 purchases.


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      Since you are loving those CR's, can you compare and contrast them to something like a ZT? Just curious as I've never even held one. Do they have a deserved mystique based on insane unmatched quality... or is it more of a 1911 type mystique. Just kidding, 1911 guys.

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      • hardhead
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Mar 2014
        • 406

        Just arrived.. Just might be my new EDC.

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        • Blademan21
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 1941

          Originally posted by crufflers
          Since you are loving those CR's, can you compare and contrast them to something like a ZT? Just curious as I've never even held one. Do they have a deserved mystique based on insane unmatched quality... or is it more of a 1911 type mystique. Just kidding, 1911 guys.


          At one time I had about 6 CRKs in my rotation. Along with Sypdercos, Benchmades,Buck 110&112s and a few ZTs.
          When automatics became legal in Wisconsin I switched to autos and have been very happy with the change.
          CRKs handles are machined titanium that get snail trails very easily. But the knives are unmatched in their quality. I think, personally that ZTs can't compete with the CRK. Expensive but worth the coin. I think the ZTs is maybe a step up from the Spyderco. Just my 2 cents.


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          • crufflers
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2011
            • 12723

            Originally posted by Blademan21
            I think, personally that ZTs can't compete with the CRK. Expensive but worth the coin. I think the ZTs is maybe a step up from the Spyderco. Just my 2 cents.
            I'll have to check one out. With ZT there is so much variety... big difference between something like a 0566, 0055, 0804, 0452, etc... such a wide range of designs. CRK has large and small, right? I always thought the tanto versions were cool looking. I like some of the materials they use for inlays, but the inlay pattern is something I was never crazy about.

            As far as price... you can pay $400 for some new China made Spyderco... so there's that. If they are good knives they might be worth it.

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            • crufflers
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2011
              • 12723

              Originally posted by Blademan21
              At one time I had about 6 CRKs in my rotation.
              So with say, a year's use, CRK's have zero lock stick and zero blade wobble?

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              • JWHuey
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 2300

                Just bought a Kiser Kesmec. $140 for flame ano Titanium and s35vn.
                I like it. Only complaint is that the detent is a bit soft.

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                • Blademan21
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1941

                  Whats your latest knife purchase?

                  Originally posted by crufflers
                  So with say, a year's use, CRK's have zero lock stick and zero blade wobble?


                  I'd have to say yes that's true. Then again I had so many USERS and I didn't buy them just to say I owned this and that knife. My most costly CRK was a Raindrop Stainless Damascus with a tanto blade. Bad a** blade. I even had a few left hand CRK in order to see what it was to carry two at once.
                  Then if a CRK of mine had a problem I'd just send it back to Idaho. You could do the same.


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                  • crufflers
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 12723

                    Originally posted by JWHuey
                    Just bought a Kiser Kesmec. $140 for flame ano Titanium and s35vn.
                    I like it. Only complaint is that the detent is a bit soft.

                    https://www.opticsplanet.com/kizer-c...ng-knife.html?
                    That's my complaint about WEknives I have owned or tried. Most things seemed ok to good, except maybe blade steel, anemic liner lock, barely passing detent... awesome bearings. When Chinmese knives get much beyond $40 it is hard for me to see the point. Even Spyderco's... I'd rather pay for Golden CO, Earth made stuff like the PM's.

                    CHEAP Kershaw and cheap Spyderco are mostly crappy.

                    FWIW, the only KIZER I have is a KLECKER and it had a good detent - not a flipper, no bearings either.

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                    • crufflers
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 12723

                      Originally posted by Blademan21
                      I'd have to say yes that's true. Then again I had so many USERS and I didn't buy them just to say I owned this and that knife.
                      Yeah, I have been downsizing collecting for years now. I got rid of a ton of knives, keeping what I really like. I think all folders are carried, and most fixed blades were eliminated. I still have one INFI Team Gemini, and a bunch old Regulators, TALIWHACKERS, and older SYKCO. Got rid of stuff like $400 13" choppers etc... last time I chopped something I used a cheapo South African Cold Steel Kukri or stripped SYKCO CHOPHOUSE. I'm pretty much off the BUSSE waiting list club.

                      As far as folders... I could probably be fine with a ZT 0456BW and maybe a 0450... and my GEC's. Still collect GECS.

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                      • Excitable Boy
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 568

                        Originally posted by crufflers
                        I'll have to check one out. With ZT there is so much variety... big difference between something like a 0566, 0055, 0804, 0452, etc... such a wide range of designs. CRK has large and small, right? I always thought the tanto versions were cool looking. I like some of the materials they use for inlays, but the inlay pattern is something I was never crazy about.

                        As far as price... you can pay $400 for some new China made Spyderco... so there's that. If they are good knives they might be worth it.
                        CRK has several models. The traditional folders are the Sebenzas. They have made large and small for a long time and have gone through a couple of generations from the originals, to the Classic, to the Sebenza 21 series which is now going away and being replaced by the Sebenza 31. If you've liked the inlaid Sebenzas, but ddin't like the inlay pattern, you'll probably like the new Sebenza 31. The inlays are one piece and they've done away with the fixture hole that was used during the manufacturing process. You can see the new Sebenza 31 here:

                        Made in the USA, Chris Reeve Knives in Boise, Idaho specializes high quality precision knife manufacturing and professional blade sharpening services.


                        Besides changing the inlays, they've gone to a ceramic detent ball as well as changed the clip to be more like their Inkosi series.

                        Originally posted by crufflers
                        So with say, a year's use, CRK's have zero lock stick and zero blade wobble?
                        What put Chris Reeve folders on the map is the precision with which they are made. They are in a different class than ZT. I'd guess their machining tolerances are about as good as any custom I've owned. When one is open, it feels about like it's a fixed blade the lockup is so solid. That said, they're not for everyone. I have one in my collection. It's a small original and I only own it as it's the same model as the first expensive knife I ever bought (which I lost). Before my original Sebenza, I was Cold Steel (Steal) and after 9/11, I decided that I wanted something in my pocket that was better than a Chinese made knife. The Large Sebenza has never fit my hand right, the Umnumzaan never lit my fuse and the Inkosis don't work for me ergonomically. They are top quality in materials and manufacturing, but to me have no soul.

                        Oh, and if you get one, expect it to be stiff to open and for it to take a fair amount of time for that to change. These days, they include a small tube of Flourinated grease. It's grease, not oil, so should give you an idea as to their flickability. If you like ZT flippers, forget CRK as they are just the opposite. Opening a CRK folder is a deliberate act. I've met Chris and Anne many times over the years at shows and they're pleasant people and their company produces top quality tools and they stand behind them with a good warranty. They are designed to be users and some even have pretty decorations. Unlike many high end knives, they include tools to break the knives down for service.

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                        • Blademan21
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 1941

                          Originally posted by Excitable Boy
                          CRK has several models. The traditional folders are the Sebenzas. They have made large and small for a long time and have gone through a couple of generations from the originals, to the Classic, to the Sebenza 21 series which is now going away and being replaced by the Sebenza 31. If you've liked the inlaid Sebenzas, but ddin't like the inlay pattern, you'll probably like the new Sebenza 31. The inlays are one piece and they've done away with the fixture hole that was used during the manufacturing process. You can see the new Sebenza 31 here:



                          Made in the USA, Chris Reeve Knives in Boise, Idaho specializes high quality precision knife manufacturing and professional blade sharpening services.




                          Besides changing the inlays, they've gone to a ceramic detent ball as well as changed the clip to be more like their Inkosi series.







                          What put Chris Reeve folders on the map is the precision with which they are made. They are in a different class than ZT. I'd guess their machining tolerances are about as good as any custom I've owned. When one is open, it feels about like it's a fixed blade the lockup is so solid. That said, they're not for everyone. I have one in my collection. It's a small original and I only own it as it's the same model as the first expensive knife I ever bought (which I lost). Before my original Sebenza, I was Cold Steel (Steal) and after 9/11, I decided that I wanted something in my pocket that was better than a Chinese made knife. The Large Sebenza has never fit my hand right, the Umnumzaan never lit my fuse and the Inkosis don't work for me ergonomically. They are top quality in materials and manufacturing, but to me have no soul.



                          Oh, and if you get one, expect it to be stiff to open and for it to take a fair amount of time for that to change. These days, they include a small tube of Flourinated grease. It's grease, not oil, so should give you an idea as to their flickability. If you like ZT flippers, forget CRK as they are just the opposite. Opening a CRK folder is a deliberate act. I've met Chris and Anne many times over the years at shows and they're pleasant people and their company produces top quality tools and they stand behind them with a good warranty. They are designed to be users and some even have pretty decorations. Unlike many high end knives, they include tools to break the knives down for service.


                          Excellent feedback. I too met Chris at a few California gun/knife shows back when he first started to get known for his close tolerance blades. Thanks for your input.


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                          • crufflers
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 12723

                            Originally posted by Excitable Boy
                            When one is open, it feels about like it's a fixed blade the lockup is so solid.

                            Oh, and if you get one, expect it to be stiff to open and for it to take a fair amount of time for that to change. These days, they include a small tube of Flourinated grease. It's grease, not oil, so should give you an idea as to their flickability. If you like ZT flippers, forget CRK as they are just the opposite. Opening a CRK folder is a deliberate act.
                            Yeah I have to check one out. I don't know how much more solid a lockup can be than a ZT that doesn't have any blade play up-down or side-to-side... I have seen plenty of Spyderco and Benchmades that have too much slop in various directions where I almost expect it. Benchmade bushings are often not a good fit with their machining tolerances. Any Spyderco that doesn't have a traditional pivot like a Centofante3 rivet, FRN light models, China made models that are not $300, etc... I have seen PM2's that are hydraulic in their action and have little to no blade play. Cheap Kershaws are SLOP city.

                            I don't expect any ZT to have movement when locked up... and cannot recall one that had any even after using it for a year or more. Maybe it is easier with bearing washers and lockbar inserts, but they are solid.

                            As far as locking up "like a fixed blade", that's the TRI-AD lock and the new stronger Cold Steel lock's claim to fame, but those are not expensive.

                            Bottom line, I'll have to handle a few CRK's. It is admittedly, not a priority. I'd probably go for a plain jane large Sebenza if it knocked my socks off. I do like flippers though. Last time I was into deliberate opening thumbstud liner locks was the 1990's (I do realize they are RIL's

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                            • Excitable Boy
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 568

                              Originally posted by crufflers
                              Yeah I have to check one out. I don't know how much more solid a lockup can be than a ZT that doesn't have any blade play up-down or side-to-side... I have seen plenty of Spyderco and Benchmades that have too much slop in various directions where I almost expect it. Benchmade bushings are often not a good fit with their machining tolerances. Any Spyderco that doesn't have a traditional pivot like a Centofante3 rivet, FRN light models, China made models that are not $300, etc... I have seen PM2's that are hydraulic in their action and have little to no blade play. Cheap Kershaws are SLOP city.

                              I don't expect any ZT to have movement when locked up... and cannot recall one that had any even after using it for a year or more. Maybe it is easier with bearing washers and lockbar inserts, but they are solid.

                              As far as locking up "like a fixed blade", that's the TRI-AD lock and the new stronger Cold Steel lock's claim to fame, but those are not expensive.

                              Bottom line, I'll have to handle a few CRK's. It is admittedly, not a priority. I'd probably go for a plain jane large Sebenza if it knocked my socks off. I do like flippers though. Last time I was into deliberate opening thumbstud liner locks was the 1990's (I do realize they are RIL's
                              Don't know where you are in Cali, but if you're near Encino, there's a reputable dealer that has a very large assortment of CRK on display and available for fondling. When you handle one, you'll understand my comments vs ZT. For reference, one of my favorite production knives is a ZT 0609 RJ Martin collab. It's very similar to a Sebenza on paper as far as overall size and quality of materials, but if you use them both, you will quickly understand the differences. To me, the CRK is built to better specs like a Les Baer or Nighthawk 1911, but the ZT is a knife I'll actually carry and use and seems more like a Kimber if that makes sense?

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                              • crufflers
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 12723

                                Originally posted by Excitable Boy
                                Don't know where you are in Cali, but if you're near Encino, there's a reputable dealer that has a very large assortment of CRK on display and available for fondling. When you handle one, you'll understand my comments vs ZT. For reference, one of my favorite production knives is a ZT 0609 RJ Martin collab. It's very similar to a Sebenza on paper as far as overall size and quality of materials, but if you use them both, you will quickly understand the differences. To me, the CRK is built to better specs like a Les Baer or Nighthawk 1911, but the ZT is a knife I'll actually carry and use and seems more like a Kimber if that makes sense?
                                Thanks for the info. I am near Sacramento. I will definitely check one out if I see one somewhere. What does a Large Sebenza weigh in at? Curious how much the slabs have to do with solid feel. One of the things I like about knives like the ZT 0801 are the two titanium slabs... but something like the 0804CF is solid enough with that CF weight reduction... and flips like a champ.

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