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  • AR15fan
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Nov 2008
    • 628

    Originally posted by VolvoWrench
    I know you're new to F.S. and I think you mis-understood me.
    I am 100% a big fan of F.S. and I've taken many classes. The problem is I, myself, gave Patriot memberships to some friends that got hooked. Then, I come to find out that they can't take any advanced classes or, any other classes. I didn't know how restrictive the Patriot was.

    Then, add to that the fact that once you send a membership to a new person, they are stuck at that level unless they upgrade ($$) through F.S. directly. Which, these days, is pretty seldom.

    So, all I'm saying is, if you're gonna get a F.S. membership, you better get the best you can which would be Diamond or, above. There are a metric ton of us members out here with an infinite metric ton of super awesome memberships for sale for super cheap.

    Exactly!

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    • Jerry1834
      Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 176

      Diamond was the best bang for the bucks. Really cheap money and I've been out there 7 times. Wish they were closer - I would be there a lot more.

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      • Vinnie Boombatz
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 3036

        Originally posted by VolvoWrench
        I know you're new to F.S. and I think you mis-understood me.
        I am 100% a big fan of F.S. and I've taken many classes. The problem is I, myself, gave Patriot memberships to some friends that got hooked. Then, I come to find out that they can't take any advanced classes or, any other classes. I didn't know how restrictive the Patriot was.

        Then, add to that the fact that once you send a membership to a new person, they are stuck at that level unless they upgrade ($$) through F.S. directly. Which, these days, is pretty seldom.

        So, all I'm saying is, if you're gonna get a F.S. membership, you better get the best you can which would be Diamond or, above. There are a metric ton of us members out here with an infinite metric ton of super awesome memberships for sale for super cheap.
        That makes more sense. Thanks for the explanation.
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        • Vinnie Boombatz
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2020
          • 3036

          Originally posted by Jerry1834
          Diamond was the best bang for the bucks. Really cheap money and I've been out there 7 times. Wish they were closer - I would be there a lot more.
          What's better? Diamond or Commander?
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          • acegunnr
            • Oct 2005
            • 2334

            Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
            What's better? Diamond or Commander?
            Commander is better/newer. There are different "flavors" of Diamonds but basically, Commander gives you Ammo Discount, Guns at Cost Discount, and access to all Front Sight locations (Alaska) and future locations.

            A lot of folks say they don't need the ammo discount because they can get it cheaper off-site but then they: run out of ammo during class, leave their ammo in their hotel room or buddies car, break their gun and have to rent a handgun and then need to buy ammo, etc. Seen it happen too many times.

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            • NorthBay Shooter
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 679

              The ammo discount only matters if you need ammo while you are there. It is way too expensive otherwise. Additionally, they will not ship to CA even if you have an FFL 03 and COE. The guns at cost discount is just about as bad. While you can find a good price with FS via this discount, it is only for roster guns and the cost of shipping and transfer fees (depending on the chosen FFL) eat up the discount. However with all things FS, YMMV.

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              • UPSMike
                Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 378

                The only way I know to upgrade is to pay FS $500 to upgrade or, what I did for my nephew who I had given a Legacy membership years ago then found out he couldn’t take the ccw course with it. He cancelled his membership and I transferred him a Commander. FS will not allow members to upgrade each other.

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                • Vinnie Boombatz
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 3036

                  Originally posted by NorthBay Shooter
                  The ammo discount only matters if you need ammo while you are there. It is way too expensive otherwise. Additionally, they will not ship to CA even if you have an FFL 03 and COE. The guns at cost discount is just about as bad. While you can find a good price with FS via this discount, it is only for roster guns and the cost of shipping and transfer fees (depending on the chosen FFL) eat up the discount. However with all things FS, YMMV.
                  For what I got my Commander membership for I think the perks that come with it are darn good, even if I cant take advantage of all of them. I brought my own ammo last time, but the option to get the member discount if I ever needed any because I left my ammo in the hotel, ran out of ammo, got stolen, etc. is a nice perk. I have no desire to buy any firearms for them, so that's a moot point.
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                  • Mustard
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 563

                    It's been a while (too long, but life gets in the way) since I've been to FS. Please refresh my memory.... don't they have some kind of class that focuses solely on the US Constitution?

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                    • damon1272
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 4857

                      Yes they do. Not put on by front sight but by another person.

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                      • Mustard
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 563

                        Originally posted by damon1272
                        Yes they do. Not put on by front sight but by another person.
                        How does one sign up for the course? When/where are they held?

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                        • Jedi54
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1012

                          Class taught by Rick Green.

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                          • damon1272
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 4857

                            Rick green sight. May have to go through my front sight.com.

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                            • Mustard
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 563

                              Originally posted by damon1272
                              Rick green sight. May have to go through my front sight.com.
                              https://store.patriotacademy.com/con...nse75discount/
                              You can also join Rick LIVE at Front Sight for a crash course on the Constitution during your next trip to train at Front Sight. Rick does the Constitution Crash Course once a month at Front Sight. The class is held in the evenings after your regular training on the range. Both a hot BBQ plate and the class workbook are available for purchase.
                              Upcoming 2020 Dates include:
                              March 19-21
                              May 17-19
                              Hmm.... maybe I should take my AK to 2-day practical rifle...

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                              • beanz2
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 12024

                                Originally posted by Mustard
                                Hmm.... maybe I should take my AK to 2-day practical rifle...
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                                The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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