Carrying illegally

[ChrisC]

lol wut? Did you break the speed limit today?

Get a grip man.

Comparing a speeding to ticket to illegally carrying concealed is two totally different things. Comparing apples and monkeys.

[Quiet]

Comparing a speeding to ticket to illegally carrying concealed is two totally different things. Comparing apples and monkeys.

Speeding ticket does not make the offender a prohibited person.
Whereas, getting convicted for illegally carrying a conceal handgun does make the offender a prohibited person.

[Sojournertruth]

if you walk around in fear because you have no gun on you then just go live in a remote area stay away from people and smear yourself with camo paint and enjoy the satisfaction that "they" will never get you. mission accomplished.

If your life is all about "not getting killed" then thats they way to go

[triggatronic]

Lets say that even under the Insurmountable fear of getting arrested, spending jail time for a significant amount of time, and having their life ruined...



Lets say that the person in question makes the ultimate decision to carry illegally anyway, not because he is a lowlife thug, nor a drug dealer, pimp etc...

Didn't know being a thug, pimp or a drug dealer served as the criteria for riding dirty.

As far as carrying without the paperwork, not a good idea. As others have said, plain folks might not judge you but the cops/courts will.

[anthonyca]

Comparing a speeding to ticket to illegally carrying concealed is two totally different things. Comparing apples and monkeys.

One is a God given and constitutionaly enumerated right, the other is not.

That said, I don't carry illegally and I read so much about knife laws and peperspray that I know that most people carrying a knife of peperspray are breaking some law or ordinance in this state.

For all the people who carry a knife, how many hours a week do you train with knife experts? If you have never done it, you need to. You will be humbled when he takes your knife from you.

[Noggles]

The Unitd States Constitution with appurtenant amendments is the only "permit" you need.

[gwgn02]

Take a look at this-

http://therightscoop.com/200-teens-riot-in-louisville-sat-night-robbing-assaulting-people-man-claims-victim-of-attack-the-night-before/

Now where are the Cops? You'd be beaten or killed long before any help arrived. And why should you have to live in fear waiting for an officer to arrive who isn't even required to assist?

You carry if you feel the need to carry. Unjust laws are meant to be broken. I won't look down at ANY person who decides to Constitutional Carry as that is your inalienable RIGHT. In this day and age, you can be killed for so little as your cell phone (as someone I know was).

Protect yourself and your family...always.

[Bert Gamble]

Almost all of us here are law abiding citizens, and do not want to risk jail, but lets not forget that many of the significant changes that have happened in history have resulted in someone being willing to be jailed (or worse) for the cause that they believed in.

I will name a few, but it might be fun to add to the list.

Jesus
Founding Fathers
Ghandi
Mandella
Rosa Parks

Where would we be if not for theses and others who were willing to give up everything for their principals?

[Bert Gamble]

if you walk around in fear because you have no gun on you then just go live in a remote area stay away from people and smear yourself with camo paint and enjoy the satisfaction that "they" will never get you. mission accomplished.

If your life is all about "not getting killed" then thats they way to go

You should go away.

[emptybottle151]

Jury Nullification

[Jimi Jah]

Like the Gambler says, "you got to know when to hold 'um, know when to fold 'um".

With the current overcrowding and future release of thousands of felons here in California, there is not much risk of jail time. Most likely probation and loss of gun rights.

The question remains: Are YOU a gambler?

[jaymz]

Comparing a speeding to ticket to illegally carrying concealed is two totally different things. Comparing apples and monkeys.

Not really. They're both victimless crimes.
Comparing the punishment for those particular crimes is like comparing apples and monkeys.

[Beelzy]

For all the people who carry a knife, how many hours a week do you train with knife experts? If you have never done it, you need to. You will be humbled when he takes your knife from you.

Oh c'mon.....one can disarm a person with a gun as well.

[Librarian]

The Unitd States Constitution with appurtenant amendments is the only "permit" you need.

Regrettably, that has not been the case since governments got the idea they could license such things.

To paraphrase, 'Now we are engaged in a great Civil Rights war in the courts, testing whether that notion should long endure'.

Folks are going to do what they feel is the right thing to do.

But it is a condition of membership at Calguns that one does not advocate illegal activities. So far, this thread is free of that error.

[ChuckDizzle]

Not going to lie, I've done it on a few occasions when making cash deals off craigslist. The gun laws are pretty unreasonable when it comes to someone carrying for a specific circumstance as such. I feel if you are carrying over $1,000 in cash for a legitimate business purpose, then you should be free to protect yourself. I'm not going to go through the trouble of the CCW process in California if I'm only going to have this need once a year or so on average.

Usually my set up for this scenario is a J-frame in the pocket holster and I take my friend with his Sig Sauer P238. I've heard too many stories, and had two friends rolled in craigslist deals gone awry to not carry. Also I know how to flex my rights and refuse searches, and as a judicious person I would gladly take the illegal carry charge than get my head kicked in by Jorge over a couple grand.