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  • ElDub1950
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2012
    • 5688

    Originally posted by junior40er
    I would bet its almost 100 percent youre screwed if caught. Even a pro 2a LEO will arrest you because he may lose his job if he lets you go.
    Pretty sure this completely depends on where you are.

    Remember there are many parts of this state where CCW isn't a dirty word and the police and politicians support it.

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    • RickD427
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2007
      • 9266

      Originally posted by ElDub1950
      Pretty sure this completely depends on where you are.

      Remember there are many parts of this state where CCW isn't a dirty word and the police and politicians support it.
      ElDub,

      Thanks for this post. You're pretty much right on point.

      The Penal Code contains some very specific guidance concerning officer discretion, and the inappropriateness of "enforcing the letter of the law."

      LEO's do possess a wide latitude of discretion in the making of arrests, although the trend seems to be more limiting of that discretion (particularly in domestic violence cases). The idea is that you arrest someone because they need to go jail, not simply because you can.
      It may be good to give a very close read to Penal Code section 4. There's a reason they put this section on the first page of the code. Here's the text:

      "The rule of the common law, that penal statutes are to be strictly construed, has no application to this Code. All its provisions are to be construed according to the fair import of their terms, with a view to effect its objects and to promote justice."
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      • SDPatriot
        Member
        • May 2010
        • 459

        Only time I would ever consider this is if I broke down in a desolate area late at night and had to walk it a few miles to a gas station.

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        • The Shadow
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 3213

          Originally posted by HighLander51
          We, no not we, the police and the courts. They will treat him just like the criminal he is.
          Well look at you. You're really a pompas ***. Carrying a gun without government permission is illegal because the government says it is, but criminal ? No, not really.

          To be clear, it's not a crime of violence, not a property crime, or for that matter, an offense that injures or hurts another person. It's simply a regulatory violation. You know, like driving without a drivers license, not getting a license for your dog, or any number of regulatory violations that a person would roll their eyes at, and blow off as B.S.

          Put another way, people in four other states can do what is considered a misdemeanor in this SOCIALIST state.

          So before you go labeling someone a criminal, think about who the alleged "victim" is. Is it a real person that was victimized by someone not adhering to a regulation, or is it the state that wants nothing more than to disarm you and me.
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          • BigPimping
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2010
            • 21443

            Originally posted by hunterb
            I understand and share your sentiment.

            But you must also remember: If you get caught carrying illegally, they will use it to vilify you, to ruin your life, to MAKE YOU INTO A CRIMINAL.

            Because you see, we live in THE BIGGEST POLICE STATE IN THE WORLD. The prisons must be kept full to keep the corporations that own them in the profits. The corporations legally own our political system through unlimited campaign contributions. Anything that threatens them will be crushed by the government jackboots (police, DEA, ATF, FBI, NSA, etc).

            Keep your feelings secret, and wait for the correct time for action. Play their little bureaucratic game, and stay off the radar.

            You get my vote for an all time epic post. Well done sir
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            • p0ppyman
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 32

              Originally posted by Wallabing
              How are we to judge him?
              Unless I am sitting in the jury box at his trail it is not for me to judge him. It is not a decision I would make, but only he knows the circumstances that led to his decision.

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              • packnrat
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 3939

                well years back when i owned acres up a not public dirt rd yes i always had a pistol on me. shotgun at the ready.
                not so much for the two leg threat, (as every body around did the same), but more for a bad dog. (wild or rabid).
                shot gun for rattlers.
                here in the hills of ca it is normal to find guns in most pu trucks and even moms suv.
                the county police are only a hr + away.
                your rifle is at your bed side.
                but then having most places/people armed crime is low here.
                but we do have a larger than the norm number of meth labs.
                people are gona get high no mater what.
                look at the tract homes in the citys turned into pot growers.

                guns are treated as a very bad thing but in truth are not such a big deal.
                most shootings are in the dark geatos of the citys. and/ or involve know ganbangers.
                big gun's...i love big gun's

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