Froglube nightmare

[xOperator]

I use SLIP2000 EWL 30 for long term storage.

I have a pair of SKS that couldnt fit in my safe in Vegas. So, i just stuck on a crap load of EWL 30, let them sit in the garage hidden. Gone through 2 full years and the oil is still sitting on them when i checked on them last week

[64physhy]

Simple CLP has done just fine for an awful long time in the military. It's all I use on all of my firearms. Don't fix what ain't broken!

That's what I use. Occasionally use the brass cutter to clean the bore, but regular CLP has been my primary. Never bought into the whole FL thing.

[bug_eyedmonster]

Another year later, I still have no issues with FL. Also, I have no surface rust on anything. It lasts for a long time and smells good. Its nice to use on carry guns, no smell, no stains on clothing. Personally I don't like motor oil stains on my shirts. To each their own, but I find it funny that people seem to get so outraged about this product. OP, did it actually "dry out" or was it just cold in your safe? The stuff is thick when it's cold, but you only notice if you over apply it. I've never done the heating up application, I just pour some of it on a rag and rub a light coat on anything I can get to. I suppose if you put a lot on and it got cold, a simple hairdryer would melt it back down.

I've got a dehumidifier in the safe, and my assumption is that is why it "dried" out and gummed up the way it did. My safe sits at around 95 degrees when closed with next to no humidity. After my post, I poured some into a small dish and opened the jar of paste to see what happened. So far, the jar of paste is cracking like an old candle, and the dish of the liquid form is turning into a thick mess. I'm a bit reluctant to use it for anything other than cleaning certain surfaces at this point. I'm back to the Jardine grease on certain guns and Mobil 1 for the others. I bought Frog Lube on a whim and it's not a huge loss, I'm currently using it on my knives, especially my carry ones that are not stainless. It seems to work well for them and protects the blades from surface rust.


Jerry

[Maddawg46]

I used Hopps#9 to clean and then CLP. I finally decided to upgrade. I mixed 10/30 synthetic Quaker Stata with 1/3 Marvel Mystery oil. Then I got real fancy and decided to use Mobil 1 grease on the slides of my 1911s and M1A.

Never tried any of these new dangled lubes. May go back to CLP just to be stubborn! Oh....I still have a flip phone.

[MachineGuntongue]

I almost bought some froglube but came across this thread while researching. Can any experienced Ballistol users chime in if it can be used exclusively on these guns:

Bersa 380
glock 19/26
smith and wesson model 64 stainless steel hb
Iac hawk remington 870 clone for the most part (no barrel compatibility)

I can afford to buy others clp products, but heard Ballistol does it all. Is this true? Specifically concerned about the S&W model 64. I have two cans of Ballistol in hand and before using it would feel better knowing I am doing the right thing.

[greg916]

In my opinion froglube is complete junk. I've used it too. It was a very short lived experience. All I use is ballistol and slip 2000.

[sd_shooter]

I almost bought some froglube but came across this thread while researching. Can any experienced Ballistol users chime in if it can be used exclusively on these guns:

Bersa 380
glock 19/26
smith and wesson model 64 stainless steel hb
Iac hawk remington 870 clone for the most part (no barrel compatibility)

I can afford to buy others clp products, but heard Ballistol does it all. Is this true? Specifically concerned about the S&W model 64. I have two cans of Ballistol in hand and before using it would feel better knowing I am doing the right thing.

I use Ballistol on the two I highlighted, and all my other guns too.

Oh, and Ballistol is non-toxic as well, so all the FrogLube users can safely migrate to it and continue to lick their guns

Here's why I initially started using Ballistol: (hickok45)

[-hanko]

You do realize that the military buys their stuff from the lowest bidder don't you? Just because the military uses something doesn't mean that it's the best.

The military also has a specification for the stuff they buy, and most specifications from the military (including that for CLP) have a Qualified Producers List (QPL). The lowest bidder may be the lowest given economies of scale.

A manufacturer listed on the QPL has had their product tested to the specification successfully. It's given the government the results of their testing.

FrogLube has no test data that I've ever seen, let alone anything submitted to the government...as usual, if anyone can find any evidence, I'd welcome the correction.

Google "track lube" and you'll see the raw material from which FrogLube is packaged.

I am still unable to find any government contracts let to FrogLube.

But I can tell you that correctly applied FrogLube tends to lock up bolt guns in cold temperatures.

-hanko

[Jason_2111]

Gonna have to toss my $.02 into this thread.

I've been using frog lube for about a year, but only on the guns that I train vwith often. (AR & M&P pistol). At first, I applied it too heavy to the AR and ended up with too much gooping. You just can't apply it the same way you would with breakfree. Using a thin coat, guns run like butter. But neither of these sit for more than a couple of weeks without being used, and they get cleaned after each class/training.
The FL does make clean up WAY easier than running breakfree, or even MP-Pro.

Now on things that don't go out of the safe that often... it's MP-Pro. Great for clean up, and it doesn't turn the gun into dust/sand/schmutz/ca-ca magnets like breakfree does.

I'm thinking that a huge amount of the breakfree fan crowd is coming from military experience, where that's what you use. Rifles put in the racks for issue next week get the same treatment as ones that may sit there for 6 months.... a heavy coat of breakfree-CLP, to put emphasis on the "P" part.
Something stored like this will need a good wipe down and an oil-change before use. It will thicken, just like any oil that slowly evaporates.

The holy-grail (as of yet undiscovered) for gun lubricants is something that fits all of the use cases. It needs to go on thin, so you don't gum up with carbon fouling, dust, dirt, schmutz, etc. It needs to keep rust away obviously. It needs to lube like wet ice, and lastly, it needs to keep the carbon from really sticking into the metal pores/nooks and crannies... so clean up goes fast.

As of yet... my answer is frog lube for use-them-often/clean-them-often... breakfree-CLP for longer term storage of things that DON'T have lots of wood on them (stuff soaks into the wood), and MP-Pro for everything else, including cleaning the non-FL guns.

FL does a horrible job at bore cleaning though... so I use the MP-Pro for that.

I'm intrigued by this CorrosionX you guys are talking about... I'm going to have to give that one a shot. (no pun intended).

If you haven't tried FL, but just read other places that it sucks, possibly written by other people that haven't used it themselves, and then post up how much you hate it, then you just look kind of silly.

[robnletti]

Anyone else use M-pro 7?

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I do and it works great!

[shooterfpga]

I'm thinking that a huge amount of the breakfree fan crowd is coming from military experience, where that's what you use.

Thats how it is for anything. They all see we use a certain product and all of a sudden its the best thing ever.

A lot of our military tm and fm are completely full of blatant lies and disinformation. Its sickening and sad that is is continued to be spewed year after year, recruit after recruit. even a satire publication we use to teach soldiers the "proper" way to do things spews this crap out.

Fortunately people in the military are starting to open their eyes to this backwards ideology about CLP or any of the other types of fud many of us in modern society (yes i said modern society because the military is extremely antiquated in many things) scratch our heads at and think uhhh seriously?



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[-hanko]

Fortunately people in the military are starting to open their eyes to this backwards ideology about CLP or any of the other types of fud many of us in modern society (yes i said modern society because the military is extremely antiquated in many things) scratch our heads at and think uhhh seriously?

Shooter, are you getting froglube through a contract or through local purchase??

-hanko

[shooterfpga]

Shooter, are you getting froglube through a contract or through local purchase??

-hanko

If i can get one approved i would. For now it comes out of my pocket or unit fund at a low level.

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[The Gleam]

Breakfree CLP, Tetra-Lube (tube) on moving parts, and Breakfree Collector Oil over everything on the rare stuff.

I use Pro-Shot Pro-Gold Gun Grease when assembling/building a firearm, for all the internal parts, for its propensity to stay where put upon installation, and won't splash off easily at the first get-go; it's very similar to the type of grease Geissele supplies with their triggers.

These are the ONLY things I have ever use other than occasionally using a copper-fouling cleaner and in the "old days" Hoppes No. 9 - before I couldn't take the strong smell anymore (though I like it) and realized there were better cleaners without that strong sent. I see no reason to use anything other than the above.

[air0n'03]

The liquid form of Frog Lube is fine, Fireclean is better. YMMV.