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  • #61
    Bruce
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2183

    Originally posted by metalliman545
    hate the grip and the trigger.
    +1

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    • #62
      Artema
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 3821

      - SAAMI Pressure Specs
      Originally posted by Artema
      I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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      • #63
        CoopsDad
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 1710

        I shoot a 6" 686, a Springfield 1911, a 92F, a G17 and G19, a Ruger MkII 8" Target and a Walther P38. Of them all, the Ruger and 686 are the most accurate. The G17 and G19 are great shooters and have NEVER failed but their accuracy is at the lower end of the scale. If I had a CCW, I'd definitely pick up a G26 just because of the simplicity of the Glock. No safety, no SA/DA, no need to thumb the hammer and it's lighter and more concealable than any revolver.

        No hate for anything I've ever shot except this silly little .22 Mag Davis derringer I inherited... so small, I can't thumb the hammer with the hand I'm holding the gun with.

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        • #64
          retiredAFcop
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 2108

          I was recently informed that I am a "Glock hater", because I am not interested in buying a Glock, but am looking for another CZ.

          This came as a surprise to me, as I used to own two Glocks, and still own one - my 21 was stolen, and I chose not to replace it, since I couldn't replace the standard cap mags that made it a preferred HD option to a 1911 (13+1 vs 7+1 when I bought it was a significant factor in favor of the G21, but the current 10+1 vs 8+1 isn't that great a difference). I still have my 20, because no other affordable 10mm is as reliable.

          I'm not a fan of the ergonomics, and don't recommend them to people (other than for the 10mm), but certainly don't "bash" Glocks, since I know that other people find them more comfortable than I do. They are a durable firearm that generally costs a bit less than models I prefer, but they lack some features that I value in a semi-auto firearm, like an exposed hammer, and a safety.

          What I've noticed is that some (many?) Glock "fanboiz" try to turn it into a "If you don't love Glocks, you're a Glock hater" thing.

          btw - I also choose my sneakers for fit and comfort, rather than the name on the side.

          Originally posted by BigL
          Why does it seem like people who hate glocks or hate on glocks are people who never owned one?
          Did it ever occur to you that the reason they might not own one is because they fired a friend's or a rental gun, and didn't like it?
          Maybe it felt so uncomfortable in the shop that they never even wanted to fire it.

          If they don't like the way they look and feel in the gun shop, or when they fired one at the range, why would they buy one?
          Last edited by retiredAFcop; 08-02-2013, 11:38 PM.

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          • #65
            RobertSmith
            Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 264

            How can you hate a gun that has not failed in 15 years? The Glock's I have bought are so reliable, i just keep buying more.

            I never met a gun I did not like.

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            • #66
              RobertSmith
              Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 264

              I'm jealous......


              Originally posted by stormvet
              Never could understand the whole "they just don't fit my hand thing"
              These fit my hand fine.

              These fit my hand fine.

              These fit my hand fine.

              These fit my hands fine, etc,etc...
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              • #67
                retiredAFcop
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 2108

                Originally posted by zhyla
                Why would you buy something you don't like? That's like asking why it seems all the people that aren't into gay sex have never tried it.
                The OP's not even talking about trying one out, he's making the ridiculous claim that unless you OWN one, you can't have an opinion that differs form his.

                Using your gay sex example, it's more like the OP is saying "unless you marry another man, you can't say that you don't like gay sex.".

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                • #68
                  BigL
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 678

                  Originally posted by retiredAFcop
                  The OP's not even talking about trying one out, he's making the ridiculous claim that unless you OWN one, you can't have an opinion that differs form his.

                  Using your gay sex example, it's more like the OP is saying "unless you marry another man, you can't say that you don't like gay sex.".
                  Seems like I opened up pandoras box here. Hey, if you guys are into gay sex more power to ya. j/k though

                  However on a serious note I appreciate everyones insight on the matter. Its personal preference. Understood. People just like to bash on each other. Gun owners are passionate people. Gun owners are competitive people. I was just a bit curious that was all. Im not a glock only guy i would love the chance to get me a colt 1911 cz even sig pistol sometime down the line. I have owned an XD40. I prefer the glock. "Personal preference" okay got it.
                  Originally posted by becciboo
                  Why make it clear when there is an agency that can make up and enforce their own laws? Its one of those things where you need to make the personal decision as to whether you want to be right or free. Is it worth it to you?

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                  • #69
                    diveRN
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1743

                    I avoid these kinds of conversations unless someone is being a complete azzhat about it.

                    My take on it: If it puts rounds on / in your target, then who gives a flying flip what put them there? Buy what feels right in your hand and go shoot it.

                    I own more than one Glock and more than one of other brands, too.

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                    • #70
                      geeknow
                      Lifetime Contributor #1
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 3144

                      I own Springfield 1911's, M9's, Walthers, Kahr, Taurus, and Glock (a bunch) pistols.

                      Of them, the Glocks perform the best for me.

                      Other brands / types may suit other shooters better...and that is fine with me. I won't hate on you, if you're on the line next to me shooting something different. I'll usually ask to give it a go.

                      I see where some say that 'brand x' is best. We all have different metrics, by which we judge these things.

                      Personally, I've never had a hiccup with my Glocks. My personal favorite is a gen 3 model 17, RTF frame gun. I average 2000 rds / mo with that gun, over the last 5 yrs or so. Not one hiccup in all that time.

                      Personally, I place reliability at the top of the scale. Glocks perform.

                      On a side note, I do get to see many other shooters. From my observation, the majority of failures experienced with any striker fired gun (glock, m&p, xd) are operator induced, and not the fault of the gun.

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                      • #71
                        Diabolus
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 4731

                        I have a Glock for USPSA and an M&P, both in 9mm. They are great guns!

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                        • #72
                          Supertac916
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 2423

                          Originally posted by The Gleam
                          I have a lot of high-end guns comprised of various 1911s, SIG Sauers, HKs, Smith & Colt revolvers, the works.

                          But the guns outside of the safe, for home defense, on trips, or concealed, are my 1st Generation Glock 19s (plural) and Glock 26s (plural).
                          I'm in the same boat. I have Les Baers, Kimbers, HKs, S&W revolvers, Brownings, Sigs, etc.

                          The gun I carry daily is a Glock 23 and the gun I use for HD is a Glock 35. I recently went through 6 states on a family roadtrip and the two Glock's came with us. The rest stayed in the safe at home. I have a HK SP2000 and a Kimber Gold Combat on my permit and those stayed home.

                          Glock's are relatively cheap, reliable, and with enough training they're accurate. I used to be a highend 1911 snob and would only carry full size 1911's. That lasted a few years and I decided to try out the Glock 23. Hated it and rarely trained with it at first because of the grip angle and the trigger. However, I decided to put my bias aside and give it a chance. The sear reset on the trigger is awesome and I can shoot the guns fast and accurate these days. Still love the 1911's, but going through several training courses putting 500 rds down range with my 1911's and Glock's. The Glock's never malfunctioned, where as my nice 1911's started acting up after 300 rounds. I've trained with about a dozen CCW holders regularly and the 1911's tend to malfunction about mid-day thru the courses. Same goes for Sig, Kahr's, Beretta's, etc. Surprisingly the Ruger semi-autos are fairly reliable as well.
                          Last edited by Supertac916; 08-03-2013, 7:51 AM.

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                          • #73
                            henmar77
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1813

                            I personally don't have anything bad to say about glocks its personal preference. I just hate the way they look, feel and shoot. Other then that they are good guns.

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                            sigpic "Now then, take your weapons, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me" Genesis 27:3

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                            • #74
                              Loubot10
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 3078

                              Reminds me of conversations I end up having on Sundays when well dressed strangers knock on my door.

                              I don't hate them, but I do hate their insatiable need to convert everybody else in the world to their particular choice in guns..... I mean religions.
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                              Originally posted by Lone_Gunman
                              They want to be rulers. Well I don't effing want to be ruled, I want to be represented.

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                              • #75
                                madjack956
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 2617

                                Originally posted by stormvet
                                The same could be said of 1911 haters, Sig haters, CZ haters, etc, etc.
                                Fact is people are basically insecure and need to validate their choice of a personally owned firearm, the easiest way to to that is to bash other types of firearms.
                                When Glocks first came out I rented one at an indoor range. I did not like the feel of it and I didn't shoot it well. I rented a 1911 the same day and really liked the way it fit my hand and I liked where it put rounds on target.

                                I have never had animosity towards Glocks and youll never find me in a thread bashing them. Im glad some people enjoy them. Im glad there are guns out there for all tastes. It is good for the hobby.

                                Im not insecure and the only validation any of my firearms need, is that I like it and it functions well.

                                Same reason I like Chevy's...
                                Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.org

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