10mm vs .45

[Deadbolt]

If you ever get attacked by a Lion and are able to get a shot off, please let us know how it worked out for ya......

lol this, unfortunately

[mbt]

Why don't u just wear armor? I mean u have a 30-06. Why u need a HG for the woods?

Or buy a flare gun.

[m98]

Why don't u just wear armor? I mean u have a 30-06. Why u need a HG for the woods?

Or buy a flare gun.

Lol......Flare launcher mounted to the bottom
Of the 06' rifle via custom 1913 rail.

[InGrAM]

.45

You can shoot it a lot more than 10mm. If you reload it you can find .45 brass at every gun range. No one seems to pick up their spent, once fired .45 brass . I have never seen spent 10mm brass on the ground at a range before, along with 38 super. Most people pick it up and reload it for obvious reasons.

If you really want a 10mm then buy one, it is definitely the more powerful of the two rounds. But which one are you going to shoot more and be more proficient with? I would say the .45

[1000stars]

.45 is the benchmark for self defense pistol.
10mm is fun to shoot but cost more.
Doesn't matter which one you pick, you will buy the one you did not pick next.

[toby]

The three run ins I've had with mountain lions gave me plenty of time to pull off a shot, but I didn't have a gun on me. The first was when one jumped down onto the road to confront me. If I'd had a gun, I would have shot it, I was barely able to back away and get into a vehicle.

The other two occasions caused a face off with the lions turning and running off. That's proof of three occasions where I had the opportunity, but not the ability. I consider myself lucky to have gotten away on the occasion where the lion wasn't going to run away.

If it happened again, the challenging lion would be toast. The other two situations didn't warrant shooting the lions since they ran off after a brief standoff. The first one was actively hunting me. The 10mm would have been sufficient to get the job done. I love animals and wouldn't ever want to bring harm to a mountain lion, but I'm not on the menu, thanks.




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Run ins are not attacks, I too have had numerous run ins, sightings, the difference is you most likely will never see the attack until it happens, ps you can not shoot a Lion just because you came within shooting distance.

[opie4386]

The 460 rowland would be my best choice

Please dont confuse it with the grizzly stopping .460 smith&wesson

[vector16]

thax for all the input. I just looked at BPS and found they only have the 10mm in Rem. UMC for a box of 50 its $34.

My next question is on the 45+p. How does the Glock 21 stand up to it? I have a G17 which I had mentioned before. It stands up fine top the +p rounds. I am a little concerned withthe +p in .45ap with the glock. Is the Glock 21 able to stand up to the extra power?

[Decoligny]

Well it would not be the ideal thing to have happen but I think that you would have more luck with a gun than a knifeor even bare handed. I think I would be more concerned with a mama bear than the cougar. The cougar will attack from behing and woun't give you any warning. I am not an ideal target for a cougar unless I am tying my shoe. I'm 6.5' tall.
Ideally I would like to get a D.E. 50 cal. but I just can't really see a purpose for having one of those on my hip. Nor can I see myself spending $2 - $4 a round. I would have to admit that it would make a great zombie gun though.
If the 45 will do what I need it to be able to do than that is what I am going to get.
In response to Steve-o I bet its no worse than waling into a GS in CA anywhere and asking them for shells for a 8ga. or even a 4 ga. Most gun dealer will try and agrue that they do not exist, esspecially Bass Pro's. I had to argue with the guy last Sat. for almost 30 min. and then finally just left.

Not a problem.

101st Airborne and the Mountain Lion share the motto "Death from Above".

[polo.45]

If you getting a .45 and 10mm caliber... Gotta be a 1911.

[henmar77]

Many of the 10mm loads are about the same as .40 S&W

Some is loaded "hot" but when i looked at the 10MM it seemed that many target loads are almost the same as .40

You can get the 200 grain bullet in 10mm, but I do not know if 20 grains really makes that much difference

If you want a monster, then take a peek at the .460 Rowland

It is a longer case than the .45 ACP and they sell a barrel to convert several different types of .45ACP guns to take the round

It is almost the same power as a 44 mag

But you need to buy ammo ahead of time... It is a saami round but it is not widely used

+1 get the 45 and a 460 conversion if you want 44mag power. Then when you run out of money shooting both. You can buy a 22lr conversion. Now you have 3 guns in one!!

[SnWnMe]

If you getting a .45 and 10mm caliber... Gotta be a 1911.

Preach it Bruther! Educate these Tactical Tupperware heathen!

[hasserl]

If one were to shoot an attacking bear with a handgun (50 ca, 10mm, 45 etc), would it be best to go for center mass shots or head shots or another shot all together?

Same question with a 12 gauge loaded with slugs?

Thanks!

if you have a charging mama bear you will only get head shots or back of the throat shots.

An open mouth shot is ideal. Unlike a human target, you don't want to aim for center mass. Bears have a slow heart rate, and you may inflict a terminal shot, but a charging bear will be able to complete the charge before he bleeds out. What you need to do is sever the spinal cord, that will stop it instantly. Aiming right at the back of the throat is probably your best option, and empty the gun, don't leave any rounds unspent.

If I was arming myself for this I'd go with a 44mag, not an auto. If it had to be auto I'd go with SIG 357.

[TripleThreat]

Appreciate the reply, I didn't know a Sig 357 was that potent?

[paul0660]

Appreciate the reply, I didn't know a Sig 357 was that potent?

It isn't.

Someday I will get a 10mm hunting sidearm and call it good. It will be a handgun, not a Glock.