CA DROS Delay

[mrdd]

You need to get a VAF (voluntary appeal file) at NICS and they will assign you a UPIN which you will write down in the UPIN field on every 4473 you do, which the FFL will transmit with your background check request, which will clear up any delays - usually instantly.

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ni...cs-appeals-vaf

Thanks, I will do that do I still have to wait for my Live Scan to clear?

That probably does not apply in California, he was answering somebody in Arizona. In California, the CADOJ is the POC for the NICS checks. I don't recall whether the DROS form has a place for a UPIN.

[LMan57]

You need to get a VAF (voluntary appeal file) at NICS and they will assign you a UPIN which you will write down in the UPIN field on every 4473 you do, which the FFL will transmit with your background check request, which will clear up any delays - usually instantly.

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ni...cs-appeals-vaf

Thanks, I will do that do I still have to wait for my Live Scan to clear?

[SkyHawk]

Not trying to hijack thread. I moved to AZ almost three years ago and still being delayed on almost everyone of my purchases. I never get cleared right away anymore. Don’t know if this has to do with this newer administration or not. Last time I cleared immediately was two years ago. Just went in to get a Sig macro 365 and delayed again. 4th purchase in 5 months. Everyone delayed. So yesterday when delayed I decided to call about it. Was told if I have ever been arrested/ not convicted ! Arrested that I will be delayed. I asked why, since they always clear me by day three and it’s obvious I have don’t have anything that prohibits me on my record. Was told it did not matter , that anyone who’s been arrested will be delayed. Does not matter how long ago or for what. Is this something new? Crazy how they are in my opinion making up things as they go a long. Also was told to do a VPI number. May have acronym wrong. Was told it’s where I release them to have open access to my past and they keep it on file. Even though I don’t have a record.

You need to get a VAF (voluntary appeal file) at NICS and they will assign you a UPIN which you will write down in the UPIN field on every 4473 you do, which the FFL will transmit with your background check request, which will clear up any delays - usually instantly.

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics/national-instant-criminal-background-check-system-nics-appeals-vaf

I Have Been Denied a Firearm Multiple Times or Experience Delays – What Should I Do?
Voluntary Appeal File (VAF)

Anyone may apply for the VAF, but it is designed for firearm purchasers who believe they are legally allowed to buy firearms, but they have been denied more than once or frequently experience delays in their transactions. Purchasers sometimes find themselves experiencing delays or denials in firearms purchases because of a past misdemeanor charge or because an ineligible person has a similar name.

When you apply for the VAF, FBI personnel will research your case and assign you a Unique Personal Identification Number (UPIN) if you have no firearms prohibitions. For future firearms transactions, you will provide your UPIN for your background check. You will still have to undergo a complete background check to buy a firearm, but the UPIN will help to confirm your identity.

The VAF process can take several months.

You may also apply for the VAF at the same time you submit a firearm-related challenge.

[LMan57]

Well, today makes 30 days since I submitted my Live Scan to the DOJ I checked, and all it says is In Progress. I called the other day and they told me they are running about 90 days before they complete the background checks and that they are swamped with the requests. Gee, I wonder why

[Dc2 r guy]

I'm going through the same issue right now.
Did 2 separate private party transfers

8/5/22 - Dros
8/11/22 got the call from turners.
waiting on my letter from the DOJ


8/7/22 - Dros
8/15/22 - Got the call from ammo bros.
waiting on my letter from the DOJ

No update yet but I did purchase another firearm this time at Gun Effects

8/18 Dros
Picked up 8/28

[WingDings]

PPT in Cerritos today. Asked the guy behind the counter what percentage (on average) were coming back as “delayed”.

Said “about 20%” at his location.

Insane.

[ruination]

[66nick]

Got them added to our "good guy" list.

[Nick Adams]

I just got the dreaded delay. Good news is Dirty Bird, in lovely Bakersfield, will release “undetermined.” Turners won’t.

[pacrat]

Was told if I have ever been arrested/ not convicted ! Arrested that I will be delayed. Was told it did not matter , that Does not matter how long ago or for what.

I can tell you with 100% certainty that that is BS

Agree with Goldfish on this. I have multiple arrests, even one felony, NO CONVICTIONS. And I've never been delayed.

For clarity, WHO DID YOU CALL, THAT MADE THOSE CLAIMS?

FEDERALLY, When a FFL in AZ, runs a mandated NICS BG check. Vast majority clear in minutes. 3 DAYS is the maximum allowed for a NICS/FBI DELAY. If they can find nothing to prohibit the transfer in that time. THEY MUST approve the transfer.

Not the 30 days codified in Crap O Fornica law. Here in Kali, it is the Ca-DOJ initiating the overwhelming number of delays.

In Az, getting consistent FBI/NICS delays, suggests something is amiss in the NICS records. Were I you, I would request your FBI RAP sheet and check for yourself.

[golfish]

I can tell you with 100% certainty that that is BS

[Napalm Bulldog]

Not trying to hijack thread. I moved to AZ almost three years ago and still being delayed on almost everyone of my purchases. I never get cleared right away anymore. Don’t know if this has to do with this newer administration or not. Last time I cleared immediately was two years ago. Just went in to get a Sig macro 365 and delayed again. 4th purchase in 5 months. Everyone delayed. So yesterday when delayed I decided to call about it. Was told if I have ever been arrested/ not convicted ! Arrested that I will be delayed. I asked why, since they always clear me by day three and it’s obvious I have don’t have anything that prohibits me on my record. Was told it did not matter , that anyone who’s been arrested will be delayed. Does not matter how long ago or for what. Is this something new? Crazy how they are in my opinion making up things as they go a long. Also was told to do a VPI number. May have acronym wrong. Was told it’s where I release them to have open access to my past and they keep it on file. Even though I don’t have a record.

[Creative300]

Maybe this will stop the delay/undetermined B$ that DOJ is pulling off.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=27157873#post27157873

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpc-w...urchase-delays

May not be doing much good since I just got delayed again this week on another gun I recently bought. Fortunately my FFL releases on undetermined but it sucks to have to wait 30 days.

I doubt the corrupt CA DOJ gives a crap about what any court orders them to do because they will simply ignore any court order they don't agree with. But that's not how it's supposed to work except in corrupt governments. You are supposed to comply with a court order.

Bonta ought to be locked up for breaking the law because no one is above the law!

[Dc2 r guy]

Yea. Will keep you guys updated for sure.

[pacrat]

I'm going through the same issue right now.
Did 2 separate private party transfers

8/5/22 - Dros
8/11/22 got the call from turners.
waiting on my letter from the DOJ


8/7/22 - Dros
8/15/22 - Got the call from ammo bros.
waiting on my letter from the DOJ

You picked two of the crappiest FFLs in the state. Neither release on undetermined. So if your delays turn undetermined at 30 days. You are double screwed.