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  • The Gleam
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 12425

    Originally posted by lonewolf50
    Lol,, that bad huh!!
    Yeah... also, alert CRPA to the problem. Has even more impact if you're a CRPA member.

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    Originally posted by Librarian
    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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    • pacrat
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2014
      • 10283

      Originally posted by lonewolf50
      Lol,, that bad huh!!
      Yes, that bad, several new threads a week get started on the subject. Or it seems so anyway. Due to frequency.

      And it is exacerbated if the "buyer" SCREWED THEMSELVES, by doing business with unscrupulous A-hole FFLs who deny customers RKBA. By refusing to release on undetermined.

      Did you screw yourself?

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      • lonewolf50
        Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 245

        Originally posted by pacrat
        Yes, that bad, several new threads a week get started on the subject. Or it seems so anyway. Due to frequency.

        And it is exacerbated if the "buyer" SCREWED THEMSELVES, by doing business with unscrupulous A-hole FFLs who deny customers RKBA. By refusing to release on undetermined.

        Did you screw yourself?
        I’ve been dealing with this FFL for years, but they did piss me off, by making me do a second DROS on the same firearm, and came back delayed again, but the FFL has agreed to release the firearm if it’s undetermined again. A 10 day waiting period , just became 60 ****ing days. I’ve been livid all day . I can not believe this ****. I might have to consult with an attorney soon. Three DROS delayed in a month, it’s definitely an attack on our second amendment .
        Last edited by lonewolf50; 06-02-2022, 6:48 AM.

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        • pacrat
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2014
          • 10283

          So you're saying that you did screw yourself. 60+ days and $95 to DROS the same gun, that the A-hole could have legally released after the first 30 days and same first DROS.

          Please OUT THE BASTARD, so other CalGunners can avoid that kind of luck. Because that A-hole doesn't deserve the patronage of any law abiding Ca citizens.

          Then seriously consider hopping on the 210 and make a quick trip to Upland.


          2ND AMENDMENT ZONE
          750 N MOUNTAIN AVENUE #C
          UPLAND, CA 91786
          6265934819
          Or any other integrity conscious FFL.

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          • slixx1320
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 644

            Originally posted by pacrat
            Please OUT THE BASTARD, so other CalGunners can avoid that kind of luck. Because that A-hole doesn't deserve the patronage of any law abiding Ca citizens.
            This ^^

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            • lonewolf50
              Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 245

              Originally posted by pacrat
              So you're saying that you did screw yourself. 60+ days and $95 to DROS the same gun, that the A-hole could have legally released after the first 30 days and same first DROS.

              Please OUT THE BASTARD, so other CalGunners can avoid that kind of luck. Because that A-hole doesn't deserve the patronage of any law abiding Ca citizens.

              Then seriously consider hopping on the 210 and make a quick trip to Upland.




              Or any other integrity conscious FFL.

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              • 559BearDown
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 1554

                Same issue here...Breco Firearms in Clovis won't release to me on undetermined despite having an active ccw. 😒

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                • twowheelz805
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2021
                  • 54

                  Dealing with my first delay ever as well currently. PPT for a Spectre Comp I dros'd a Guns LA. Pick up was Monday, May 31st. Came the next day (Tuesday 6/1). Called today and its still delayed.

                  Crazy as I purchased a AR Pistol 45 days ago and it dros'd in 10 days. And just bought Ammo 2 days ago!

                  Frustrating!!

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                  • lonewolf50
                    Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 245

                    Originally posted by 559BearDown
                    Same issue here...Breco Firearms in Clovis won't release to me on undetermined despite having an active ccw. 😒

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                    • foothillman
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 1107

                      Threshold for delay has been changed?
                      Older publication so maybe if you sold your car and new owner ran a red light camera on his way home you become delayed?


                      17. Can my driving record prevent me from purchasing a firearm?

                      Yes. If you have a conviction for a firearms-prohibiting offense, such as felony drunk driving, your driving record would affect your ability to purchase a firearm. Furthermore, your driver's license must be valid. A revocation, outstanding ticket, or fine may cause your license to be invalid.

                      34. I was arrested for a crime several years ago but no charges were filed against me. Can this affect my ability to purchase a firearm or to obtain a firearms license or permit?

                      An arrest on your criminal history record without any disposition information explaining the outcome of the arrest may affect your ability to purchase a firearm or to obtain a firearms license or permit. If you are applying for a license or permit involving the possession of a firearm or dangerous weapon and the Department cannot determine the outcome of the arrest, you must first correct or complete the information in your criminal history record before the Department may issue you the license or permit. If you are trying to purchase a firearm and the Department cannot ascertain the outcome of the arrest and you do not correct or complete the information on your criminal history record, the decision whether to sell you the firearm rests with the firearms dealer. For further information on how to correct or complete the information on your criminal history record, please see https://oag.ca.gov/fingerprints/security_faq#incorrect
                      ITrader FeedBack https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...k-100-positive

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                      • squirrelnuts
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2020
                        • 24

                        Dont be a victim...
                        Find a FFL/Shop that releases on Undetermined.

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                        • benjamin101677
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1056

                          Originally posted by 559BearDown
                          Same issue here...Breco Firearms in Clovis won't release to me on undetermined despite having an active ccw. 😒
                          Jim's trading post formerly Uncle Sam's will release undetermined after 30 days.

                          I quit dealing with Breco Firearms during the pandemic when they would only do private party transfer by appointment and appointments were only being made months out. Not a very good shop and not very good prices on guns.

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                          • twowheelz805
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2021
                            • 54

                            Originally posted by squirrelnuts
                            Dont be a victim...
                            Find a FFL/Shop that releases on Undetermined.
                            Good to know. Unfortunately I didn't have choice on FFL for the PPT I'm currently delayed on.

                            FYI for all here. Guns LA in Burbank DOES NOT release on undetermined status. They take more of your money to re-dros.

                            Camarillo gun store does release. Knowledge is power.

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                            • smokycuh
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 715

                              Originally posted by squirrelnuts
                              Dont be a victim...
                              Find a FFL/Shop that releases on Undetermined.
                              7/20/22 paper app dropped to station
                              11/30/22 inputted into system
                              2/15/24 email requesting docs/livescan
                              2/17/24 email confirmation of docs received
                              2/22/24 livescan completed
                              3/15/24 phone interview completed
                              7/31/24 proceed to training email
                              8/11/24 ccw training 16 hours completed
                              10/3/24 call to pickup ccw permit
                              10/17/24 ccw permit picked up

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                              • Librarian
                                Admin and Poltergeist
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 44653

                                Originally posted by pacrat
                                Yes, that bad, several new threads a week get started on the subject. Or it seems so anyway. Due to frequency.
                                I've begun to merge these DROS delay threads; easier to see the magnitude if it's all in one place.
                                ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                                Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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