What is wrong with Glock's???

[rodralig]

Why so many aftermarket parts for pistol if it runs so well? I know last time at FrontSight, guy next too me shot more accurately. We got to talking and then he told me he upgraded almost every part of pistol before taking class, up too and including a custom fit match grade barrel. Hop up on his pistol was more than cost of gun itself. I was running stock p320 and he did not beat me on score, only tighter grouping...but i was tired, lol

Glock, even in stock form, is more than enough for Front Sight, or most any other class for that matter.

As an HCM in my squad at ATHG told me "... don't use equipment to solve a training problem." That guy has passed the HCM many times over... with a stock Glock.

People just love to mod, just like cars... It's fun... It doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with the gun, or, car...

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[GeeBee49]

My first Glock was the G21 since I like 45 ACP. I do like it but I can't blame you for jumping on the Kimber. I have the Pro Carry II with the stainless frame pictured in my avatar.
I taught my three kids to shoot using my 4" GP100 and they caught on pretty quickly. I think the weight helped them with the recoil. I recently picked up a GP100 Match Champion that I'm dying to shoot as soon as my range reopens.

[1911su16b870]

lol...if you are shooting your Glock low left...it is not the gun... ...it is a trigger press that allowed the gun to move low left.

[Just-in]

4) Low, left.

[B.J.F.]

Op, just buy what you like and are comfortable with.

Doesn’t matter what anyone else likes.

I EDC my Glock 17 or 21 both Gen 3’s. I have tried other brands but chose Glock. It shoots well for me, get good grouping and it’s trustworthy. Plus I like the extra capacity of the mags

What matters most, is how it suits your needs for it’s performance and reliability.

Try/test firearms at the range

[Carcassonne]

Many people in the gun community believe the M1 Garand and the 1911 won WWII, but they dont say anything when those same to gu s lost the Korean War.


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[Transient]

USA. Navy SEALs have been using the Glock 19 for some time on an individual basis.

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[downdiver2]

Easy answer - first to purchase first to sell.

[Transient]

John Moses Browning determined ideal grip angle.



Glock wandered away from ideal with their crazy grip angle.



So....when OP asks what is wrong with Glocks, we can confidently answer "JMB blasphemy"



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Then you can argue that JMB got it wrong since some gun manufacturers have realized women are more comfortable with a different grip angle than men

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[Transient]

Money and politics

Function, reliability, modularity, and weight to name a few things. After all, Berretta did submit an updated version of the M9 for the same contest the Sig P320 won.

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[Transient]

Already answered (politics)

Wasn't the almighty 1911 replaced?

Jchavasu implied that military grade means low quality, I see it as a qualified military proven weapon. I like beretta and think they are fine pistol.

First, military grade typically does mean low quality because it satisfies the military's requirements for the cheapest price. If the item is continually replaced or repaired then the contract company makes even more money.

1911 was chambered in 45acp. The replacement called for 9mm.

The M9 is heavier than the M17/M18. The infantryman's pack keeps getting heavier and leadership started noticing. They've started doing what they could to drop some weight.

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[Transient]

Everything wrong with a Glock can't be fixed:
1) Terrible trigger, feels like squeezing a marshmallow.

Johnny Glock would disagree. Look him up on YouTube and see what he's doing with Glock triggers.

2) Blocky uncomfortable grip at an awkward angle.

65% of domestic law enforcement agencies would disagree

3) Questionable grip material, does make a safe chew toy for a dog though.

That's a tired point that seems to get used on Glocks but not any other polymer frame pistols like Sig Sauer, Springfield, Ruger, Walther, Beretta, and a whole lot more.

4) Low, left.

That's what she said. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[Rifle ronin]

First, military grade typically does mean low quality because it satisfies the military's requirements for the cheapest price. If the item is continually replaced or repaired then the contract company makes even more money.

1911 was chambered in 45acp. The replacement called for 9mm.

The M9 is heavier than the M17/M18. Ther infantryman's pack keeps getting heavier and leadership started noticing. They've stayed doing what they could to drop some weight.

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I disagree. Then why would they put all the pistols through rigorous tests before they pick one? (Well, at least they should but the army didn't with the Glock) it doesn't mean the quality is low, it means they have met the military's standard. Then, it goes to the lowest bidder.

According to you, a hi point would win every contract.

So, the Sig is low quality? Because thats what you are saying.

[Transient]

I disagree. Then why would they put all the pistols through rigorous tests before they pick one? (Well, at least they should but the army didn't with the Glock) it doesn't mean the quality is low, it means they have met the military's standard. Then, it goes to the lowest bidder.

So, the Sig is low quality? Because thats what you are saying.

For the most part, yes. My uncle's company was a gov contractor for water filtration in the 70s and 80s. He admitted that he could make the best water filter in the world, but it would be too expensive for the government to buy. He had to make a product that was satisficing and cheap enough to get the contract.

Iirc, Glock contested the results of the competition and the results were revealed. There were some areas where Sig performed better than ther Glock, and some areas where the Glock performed better than the Sig. At the end of the day it came down to price. Glock wanted more than double the ppu than Sig.

With that said, I have to agree with what was said by somebody earlier. Every now and then the gov gets something right. In context of the P320, I'm glad it got the contract over Glock. I have many Glocks, and a P320. I do think the P320 is a better pistol.

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[Rifle ronin]

For the most part, yes. My uncle's company was a gov contractor for water filtration in the 70s and 80s. He admitted that he could make the best water filter in the world, but it would be too expensive for the government to buy. He had to make a product that was satisficing and cheap enough to get the contract.

Iirc, Glock contested the results of the competition and the results were revealed. There were some areas where Sig performed better than ther Glock, and some areas where the Glock performed better than the Sig. At the end of the day it came down to price. Glock wanted more than double the ppu than Sig.

With that said, I have to agree with what was said by somebody earlier. Every now and then the gov gets something right. In context of the P320, I'm glad it got the contract over Glock. I have many Glocks, and a P320. I do think the P320 is a better pistol.

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They still have to meet a certain standard , first. Then price. You just said that.

Are you going to stick with one argument or just wander around with your opinions?