Another Appendix holster FAILURE..........

[John1960]

Originally the marketing slogan was "Safe Action". After years of fooling the masses we now have "Glock nuts".

[Chapped Hide]

No, he is more likely to get a severe head/neck injury riding a horse than shooting his unit off carrying aiwb.

I'm willing to bet that he'd rather go doing something he loves than squirming on the ground cause he just shot himself in the nuts. I know I would.

I don't care what anyone does, we all make choices but nothing said here will ever justify AIWB to me and many others. Carry on

[dommypls]

I'm willing to bet that he'd rather go doing something he loves than squirming on the ground cause he just shot himself in the nuts. I know I would.



I don't care what anyone does, we all make choices but nothing said here will ever justify AIWB to me and many others. Carry on

[OCEquestrian]

Anyone want to address the horse in the room?

The OP, seems to be involved in some kind of equestrian sport. Horse riding is extremely dangerous relative to other sports and even AIWB, about 100 deaths per year actually.

This is not to pick on riding horses, but to point out the irony in how we all do risky things, including driving cars or riding horses, but all of a sudden AIWB is a huge problem.

And this little "gem" of a thought has WHAT to do with the topic at hand?

And since you clearly didnt think your analogy through logically I will help you out..., if you are going to compare all horse accident fatalities, you need to compare all equestrian deaths with all self inflicted firearms fatalities. Or, you could compare equestrian related injuries to self inflicted gunshot injuries... see the point? Creating an appropriate analogy does require some RATIONAL thought as opposed to just looking at an avatar looking for some ill conceived "close to home" leverage in a discussion that you must think you are losing...

Take a look at my posts... there are people who can safely and from a tactically sound perspective "pull off" AIWB carry. My point has been that MOST casual shooters / CCW'rs dont have the training and discipline to do so and are putting themselves at risk becuse it looks so simple. Case in point the guy who thought bending over forward into a "haunched over position" in a a CQB fight was a good thing to do because it "protected his AIWB carry pistol"...

[tonyxcom]

No, you just simply overthink everything.

I personally don't care what anyone thinks about AIWB. I don't carry that way or otherwise have any vested interest in evangelizing it use.

"Another Appendix holster FAILURE.........."

"Another notch in the appendix carry holster and a Glock 43. Just cuz its cool, doesnt make it safe and just because REAL professionals can, doesn't mean the run of the mill moron should... "

That's your topic and first sentence of your thread.

If I went to an equestrian forum, would I find threads like "Another bareback rider paralized" and "Another notch in the bareback riding craze. Just cuz its cool, doesnt make it safe and just because REAL professionals can, doesn't mean the run of the mill moron should... "

If someone or 1000 people crash a Mustang or Camaro, should we all not drive those cars unless we have taken the Bob Bondurant Racing School?

Point is, you see one video of a guy accidentally shooting himself and all of a sudden AIWB is only for highly trained operators (or at least you seem to think so).

This is the same mentality that thinks we shouldn't have more than 10rnd magazines unless we are in the military or law enforcement.

This coming from a guy (you) that might ride horses. The leading cause of sport related traumatic brain injuries. And a generally dangerous sport for both the rider and animal.

[OCEquestrian]

If I went to an equestrian forum, would I find threads like "Another bareback rider paralized" and "Another notch in the bareback riding craze. Just cuz its cool, doesnt make it safe and just because REAL professionals can, doesn't mean the run of the mill moron should... "

I would not ride bareback as I thin it is unsafe and beyond my capabilities as a casual rider.

If someone or 1000 people crash a Mustang or Camaro, should we all not drive those cars unless we have taken the Bob Bondurant Racing School?

I have never attended Bob Bondurant Racing school, however I have taken several courses at BSR driving school and I have no problem driving a Camaro or a Mustang. I personally drive BMW, CVPI and Chevy Suburban.

Point is, you see one video of a guy accidentally shooting himself and all of a sudden AIWB is only for highly trained operators (or at least you seem to think so).

Actually, it is becoming more frequent and with all the YouTube firearms experts with CCW's out there.. it will become even more common place I predict.

This is the same mentality that thinks we shouldn't have more than 10rnd magazines unless we are in the military or law enforcement.

Again with the ill constructed, unrelated analogies....

This coming from a guy (you) that might ride horses. The leading cause of sport related traumatic brain injuries. And a generally dangerous sport for both the rider and animal.

Just shooting guns is dangerous too. I take industry standard precautions, use well maintained tack, own / ride well trained horses with good dispositions. Dont worry about me just as you need to know I dont worry about you or anyone else using AIWB CCW. I was just commenting that we have just had "another one" and as mentioned above.. they are happening more frequently... for a reason.

[Chapped Hide]

Why would you feel the need to justify that I carry 1911's so I'll let you figure that one out

[tonyxcom]

I would not ride bareback as I thin it is unsafe and beyond my capabilities as a casual rider.

That isn't even the question that I asked.

BTW, if you are quoting someone, there is hardly any need to put your responses in bold. Even if you are a self-proclaimed SME.

[OCEquestrian]

That isn't even the question that I asked.

BTW, if you are quoting someone, there is hardly any need to put your responses in bold. Even if you are a self-proclaimed SME.

Much cleaner presentation. It's not like it was ALL CAPS or something...... I am not claiming to be a SME, I am simply having a discussion about a subject I have an opinion on. Clearly some peoples opinions are less informed than others in this thread .. but that is for the readers to determine. I personally dont care how you or anyone else chooses to carry your handgun. That said, I do care that you be able to use it ACCURATELY if you do use it and as a member of the general public I certainly have skin in that game.

[emtmark]

She reacted too quick/seems too calm...

She could be a former Corpsman or ER Nurse for all any of us know.

[smashycrashy]

After reading through the thread and weighing all the pros and cons. I've come to the conclusion that OCEquestrian should definitely not carry AIWB.

[OCEquestrian]

After reading through the thread and weighing all the pros and cons. I've come to the conclusion that OCEquestrian should definitely not carry AIWB.

Yup! I think its tactical and safety shortcomings far outweigh the potential comfort factor. Besides, I dont have enough extra room down there for AIWB carry...

[tonyxcom]

Much cleaner presentation. It's not like it was ALL CAPS or something...... I am not claiming to be a SME, I am simply having a discussion about a subject I have an opinion on. Clearly some peoples opinions are less informed than others in this thread .. but that is for the readers to determine. I personally dont care how you or anyone else chooses to carry your handgun. That said, I do care that you be able to use it ACCURATELY if you do use it and as a member of the general public I certainly have skin in that game.

Ok, nutnfancy.

[OCEquestrian]

Ok, nutnfancy.

Are you really taking this so personal as to be name calling?

[tonyxcom]

Are you really taking this so personal as to be name calling?

No, not at all. I'm just being a jerk.