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  • #46
    Chapped Hide
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 3901

    I've never understood the allure of AIWB carry
    **** your feelings!

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    • #47
      OCEquestrian
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2017
      • 6899

      Originally posted by Not so Chapped Hide
      I've never understood the allure of AIWB carry
      All the cool guys with "operator beards" on YouTube do it so why not? Most gun owners soul source of training and advice is YouTube, sadly. For a highly trained professional who has a high probability of actually needing the weapon, while still inherently dangerous, the risk of appendix carry is mitigated by working in a high threat environment and professional level of training. For the individual citizen carrying simply as an abundance of caution in their daily lives and WITHOUT a high degree of training, I dont see how it can be justified.

      Last edited by OCEquestrian; 06-04-2018, 4:32 PM.
      "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

      Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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      • #48
        Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2015
        • 6504

        Every type of iwb carry violates rule 2 at some point

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        • #49
          code_blue
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 3452

          The responses here remind me of the Vegan-Nazi movement. "You don't do things the way that I do, so you suck and should be shamed into not doing things your way."

          I have read on far more ND/AD's at the 3:00 position than AIWB carry. Heck, Massad Ayoob even had a recent ND and that was without a holster.

          Sh*t happens when you party naked, folks. Sh*t happens.
          Last edited by code_blue; 06-04-2018, 5:32 PM.
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          • #50
            rugershooter
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 1804

            Originally posted by OCEquestrian
            Some of us have enough down there that its just impossible to not muzzle ourselves.....

            :
            I'm in good shape and still can't seem to avoid muzzling myself with AIWB

            This is my viewpoint as well. I see how most all of these new CCW'rs are all buying these super sub compact guns so they don't have to stop living in shorts and a T shirt and they are buying guns that cant shoot worth a damn even at contact distances.

            The smallest pistol I will carry is a SiG P225/228 or a G19. I will occasionally carry a S&W642-2 when I want something really small that can fit into a pocket (and be fired from within a pocket).
            Obviously it depends on where you are, but that's one of the advantages of open carry in my situation. I don't have to compromise the type of gun I carry (usually a G23 or G22) if the clothes I'm wearing during a particular day make CC harder. But that's really not even very often and CC works just fine most of the time.
            I don't understand the allure of a subcompact or micro gun except in limited circumstance. People can generally carry a larger gun than they realize. But that goes back to it being a lifestyle choice and making the decision to make the necessary adjustments to carry a gun.

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            • #51
              heidad01
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 4902

              Originally posted by dk94044
              Fake? No blood drips on white tile floor and the woman has gloves ready and seemed too calm, the old man just stands there like nothing is wrong.
              I thought fake as well.

              That lady was way to readily available to render medical.

              That said, putting a gun where it points at your family jewels is not the brightest idea. No matter what kind of gun.
              It is surprising how people go nuts and get agitated if muzzle swept by a shooter several lanes away, yet find it quite all right to put a gun next to their balls.

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              • #52
                101st Airborne
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 665

                Originally posted by BucDan
                Crazy. One reason why I like manual safeties that actually block the trigger and sear. I always imagined carrying a glock, but these "internal safeties" don't fully cut it for me. Like this, anything can make the trigger depress and drop the sear.

                "gun won't fire unless the trigger is pressed fully... That's our safety", no shiz.
                Agreed.
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                • #53
                  OCEquestrian
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 6899

                  Originally posted by heidad01
                  I thought fake as well.

                  That lady was way to readily available to render medical.

                  That said, putting a gun where it points at your family jewels is not the brightest idea. No matter what kind of gun.
                  It is surprising how people go nuts and get agitated if muzzle swept by a shooter several lanes away, yet find it quite all right to put a gun next to their balls.
                  Even a blank round would do some very serious damage to that very vulnerable area. I dont think it was fake. It was clearly surveillance video footage. Had it been a cell phone, I would have been more suspicious as well.
                  "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                  Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                  • #54
                    OCEquestrian
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 6899

                    Originally posted by anbu_yoshi
                    The responses here remind me of the Vegan-Nazi movement. "You don't do things the way that I do, so you suck and should be shamed into not doing things your way."
                    "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

                    This is a forum full of opinions. Don't like it? Just ignore it. You dont have to feel so self conscious or unworthy.... really. None of us mind or really even notice... I hate to think you are "melting" over it enough to throw around insults like Nazi and vegan. Would it help if we all said I take it all back and everyone should do it just liekyou?
                    Last edited by OCEquestrian; 06-04-2018, 5:47 PM.
                    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                    • #55
                      Bralowe
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                      • Aug 2014
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                      • #56
                        Chapped Hide
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 3901

                        Never would have happened if he racked it 6 times instead of just once
                        **** your feelings!

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                        • #57
                          OCEquestrian
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 6899

                          Originally posted by Not so Chapped Hide
                          Never would have happened if he racked it 6 times instead of just once
                          "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                          Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                          • #58
                            code_blue
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3452

                            Originally posted by OCEquestrian
                            "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

                            This is a forum full of opinions. Don't like it? Just ignore it. You dont have to feel so self conscious or unworthy.... really. None of us mind or really even notice... I hate to think you are "melting" over it enough to throw around insults like Nazi and vegan. Would it help if we all said I take it all back and everyone should do it just liekyou?

                            Relax, old-timer. Your interpretation and direction of my post is incorrect. Read my first response in post #2. I totally understand where you're coming from and your logic behind it. I agree with many points here, but there are work-a-rounds to everything.

                            Besides, good sir, the passive-aggressive tone of your posts (and others) alludes to the desire to defend and project the position that AIWB carry has no place for "normal" people and is only meant for "professionals" under specific missions. Maybe the individual is not capable of reaching towards specific areas of their bodies. Circumstances dictate the actions required, right? I know that not everyone can see past the initial "OMG" fear of AD or the fallacy behind one's personal opinion after alternative facts or views are presented.

                            Hence, no point in providing alternative work-a-rounds to a topic that's already superfluous on the interwebs.
                            Last edited by code_blue; 06-04-2018, 6:07 PM.
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                            • #59
                              Jwalt
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 551

                              She reacted too quick/seems too calm...

                              She could be a former Corpsman or ER Nurse for all any of us know.

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                              • #60
                                hunterb
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 3796

                                Carrying a cocealed gun without an external safety is just foolish as there are many safer options out there.

                                Carrying a concealed gun without an external safety AIWB is beyond foolish.

                                Everyone thinks it won't happen to them until it does. I'm sure this guy thought carrying his Glock AIWB was perfectly safe.....until it wasn't.

                                ....some guys should be carrying revolvers on empty cylinders....
                                Originally posted by johnthomas
                                ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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