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  • dfens
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 945

    What I want to know is what Eotech is going to do with all those returned units?

    Are they going to be re-sold as used at a discounted price or destroyed?

    I was about to pull the trigger on one then this whole recall fiasco happened and made me starting looking at Aimpoint again. But if I can get a perfectly good Eotech at a big enough discount used I wouldn't mind testing one out.

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    • SuperSet
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2007
      • 9048

      Originally posted by Palmaris
      I am not trying to convince anybody to keep or return their hardware. It was just thinking on loud. I am on the same boat as everybody else. As I stated earlier, I don't want to get disappointed again!
      I hear what you're saying.

      FWIW, EOTech is saying that this is a common problem across all optics. Meanwhile, AimPoint is saying that they've never had a problem with thermal drift, specifically.

      I work in the defense space and have heard through the grapevine that DoD has changed their testing to specifically include 'thermal drift' for all future optic acquisitions. Remember that these sights were tested by USSOCCOM for years and it was the FBI who first made the issue public. It's a black eye for USSOCCOM as well.

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      • Palmaris
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2009
        • 6442

        Originally posted by SuperSet
        I hear what you're saying.

        FWIW, EOTech is saying that this is a common problem across all optics. Meanwhile, AimPoint is saying that they've never had a problem with thermal drift, specifically.

        I work in the defense space and have heard through the grapevine that DoD has changed their testing to specifically include 'thermal drift' for all future optic acquisitions. Remember that these sights were tested by USSOCCOM for years and it was the FBI who first made the issue public. It's a black eye for USSOCCOM as well.
        It is not problem, it is nature of any mechanical design.
        Lets see results ones everything will be tested fot thermal drifting.
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        • drkphibr
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 2460

          Is anyone actually receiving an actual RMA number or just an email from Eotech saying "approved" and next steps?

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          • Latt
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 46

            Originally posted by drkphibr
            Is anyone actually receiving an actual RMA number or just an email from Eotech saying "approved" and next steps?

            When I received my approval, I had asked about a RMA and they replied one was not needed and to just print out the entire email chain and include it with the return.

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            • DougJ
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 1812

              I submitted my online return request today, we'll see how it goes from here.
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              • Agent 0range
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1040

                RMA submitted on 1/15
                RMA approval e-mail received today, 1/22

                I have a window open just waiting to click "submit order" for an Aimpoint but am hesitant to commit to buying it and returning the EOtech until someone confirms they've received an actual refund check. What to do, what to do...
                Originally posted by Mezcalfud
                Because a Glock looks great in the case and then when you take it home it feels like you're holding a Costco pack of Kielbasa.

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                • boss429
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 8

                  Originally posted by Nuuze
                  EOTech Buyback?! WTF is going on? SHOT show interview!




                  https://youtu.be/wMHvkjMQMyg
                  In this video the EOTech exec says it's only off 5MOA max but the law suit revealed that it can be "up to 20MOA off and non-recoverable" so when it warms up or cools off it's still going to be 20MOA off, it doesn't fix itself once it's off center.

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                  • JDay
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19393

                    Originally posted by boss429
                    In this video the EOTech exec says it's only off 5MOA max but the law suit revealed that it can be "up to 20MOA off and non-recoverable" so when it warms up or cools off it's still going to be 20MOA off, it doesn't fix itself once it's off center.
                    And it's been confirmed that the zero drifts with temperature changes, not just at the extremes. Hopefully those of you saying this doesn't effect you are paying attention.
                    Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                    The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                    • Agent 0range
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1040

                      Originally posted by JDay
                      And it's been confirmed that the zero drifts with temperature changes, not just at the extremes. Hopefully those of you saying this doesn't effect you are paying attention.
                      I believe this is very true. I never really noticed too many issues with zero drift when I lived in CA. However, since I've moved and now have hot/humid summers and below freezing winter temps, I've found myself having to re-zero late winter/early spring the past few years. I didn't think much of it as my groups at 100 yards were only off by an inch or two iirc. If I was just ringing steel, I may have never noticed, but when I shoot at paper it drives me crazy to be consistently off by that much.
                      Originally posted by Mezcalfud
                      Because a Glock looks great in the case and then when you take it home it feels like you're holding a Costco pack of Kielbasa.

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                      • JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by Agent 0range
                        I believe this is very true. I never really noticed too many issues with zero drift when I lived in CA. However, since I've moved and now have hot/humid summers and below freezing winter temps, I've found myself having to re-zero late winter/early spring the past few years. I didn't think much of it as my groups at 100 yards were only off by an inch or two iirc. If I was just ringing steel, I may have never noticed, but when I shoot at paper it drives me crazy to be consistently off by that much.
                        I could never get mine to hold a zero. It was off every session.
                        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • SuperSet
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 9048

                          Originally posted by Palmaris
                          It is not problem, it is nature of any mechanical design.
                          Lets see results ones everything will be tested fot thermal drifting.
                          FWIW, this doesn't mean that DoD will retest all their approved optics nor will they make the results public. It is up to the manufacturers to release their testing data to the consumer market, if they wish to do so.
                          As an example, the new ELCAN holosight, that debuted at SHOT, makes specific mention of their thermal drift testing.

                          Originally posted by boss429
                          In this video the EOTech exec says it's only off 5MOA max but the law suit revealed that it can be "up to 20MOA off and non-recoverable" so when it warms up or cools off it's still going to be 20MOA off, it doesn't fix itself once it's off center.
                          To be more specific, he's talking about the thermal drift problem that still exists. The 20MOA issue dealt with cold weather intrusion causing dot distortion and was fixed in 2008.

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                          • PyroFox79
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 2603

                            Originally posted by JDay
                            I could never get mine to hold a zero. It was off every session.
                            That's weird. I used to take mine on and off and it would always be zeroed. I only sent mine in because I wanted something different
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                            • Yugo
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 8359

                              I owned two I bought used here and I could not even ZERO it led alone keep the ZERO.

                              I was so happy to hear about the recall. What a shame!
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                              • JDay
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 19393

                                Originally posted by PyroFox79
                                That's weird. I used to take mine on and off and it would always be zeroed. I only sent mine in because I wanted something different
                                You live in San Diego where the temperature doesn't change much. I live up north where it can drop below 20f and get over 115f.
                                Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                                The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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