Trap starter shotgun

[whutsup40]

[Kingair001]

That was not what I was talking about !

If you got the guts - post it what I text you !

Just copy / paste the text !

Don't be afraid that other members know that we have been in contact for a while about shooting clays

Nothing wrong about that but . . .

Posting negative stuff about members and joking around behind a keyboard is really easy . . .

[LynnJr]

Could you point me to where?
All I could find was:

J, Safety
15. All guns used by contestants must be equipped, fitted and utilized so
as not to eject empty shells in a manner that substantially disturbs or
interferes with other contestants.

Page 15 or 16

[whutsup40]

kingair here's your guts, I think both you and Lynnjr have major issues, both you and his post's have been all over the board and nasty, and yes you sent me a text saying the trap gun seemed over used!, but I really think that you don't know what the heck you want, and wouldn't know it if fell in your lap!!, so be it, lose my number please!!! wish you the best!

[ceh383]

Page 15 or 16

Page 16 is where I found the rule I posted, nothing else found.

[Kingair001]

kingair here's your guts, I think both you and Lynnjr have major issues, both you and his post's have been all over the board and nasty . . .

Personally my PhD didn't noticed anything severe
Just been there last week
If you think something's really wrong - or if you are a medium - please let me know asap !
I'll take all medication you think I need

Now getting back somewhat on track I am glad you posted sort of 50 % of my text - well not of my text - you just posted partly something you thought would be ok . . .

Copy / paste - should have been pretty easy and no other questions needed to be asked why I did not commit to buy the Browning Citori Plus !

But you neglected it . . .

You did not prefer to quote my text !

Obviously you only have fun bashing members or making fools out of them when only knowing or reading one part of the story

Funny . . . for sure . . . I guess . . . is it . . . no clue . . . yes . . . ?

Not that I really care but please let me know what if whutsup40 was discussed as you did with me . . . ?

I know what I want or sort of - although being a rookie - I only asked you personally per text / telephone for advice

But go through the complete thread - NO one - besides Lynn is giving advice on a trap shotgun

I repeat : no one !

We - whutsup40 & me - even discussed it per phone

. . . and yes you sent me a text saying the trap gun seemed over used!, but I really think that you don't know what the heck you want, and wouldn't know it if fell in your lap!! . . .

Now would you have bought the Browning Citori being in my place ?

Please advice . . . I am all ears . . . I am the novice . . . you are the principal . . .

Just let the members know what your advice to me / all of us

Advice is never bad

So please stop posting negative things when not knowing people in person

Did I ever post something 'wrong/negative' ever about you ?

Did I ever post anything negative about any member ?

Don't think so my friends

But if yes please do let me know when and where and let's discuss it

I have been reading so many negative posts/hints from you here but no hard feelings on this side !

Even members with slightly over 20 posts / 0 sales - sorry 36 posts today - feel they need to jump in and post only negative posts about other members ?

All I can say is have fun shooting sporting clays or skeet

If that's what you like - go for it - and be the best !

But to be honest I never asked for these 336 replies about cars, sporting clays, rubber bands, etc . . .

Neither all the bashing . . .

My original post was - even I lost somewhat track now but IIRC - what shotgun for trap !

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[LynnJr]

Page 16 is where I found the rule I posted, nothing else found.

It's there keep looking. 2017/2018 rulebook. It hasn't changed in the 43 years I've been shooting trap.

[ceh383]

It's there keep looking. 2017/2018 rulebook. It hasn't changed in the 43 years I've been shooting trap.

Still don't see it...
PAGE 15:

If 3 shooters - post numbers 2, 3 and 4.
If 4 shooters - post numbers 2, 3, 4 and 5.
If 5 shooters - post numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
If more than 5 shooters are involved in the tie, they shall be divided
as equally as possible into two or more squads as directed by the
management.
In subsequent Shoot-offs the post shall be rotated in a clockwise manner,
with the shooter from post 1 advancing to post 2 and the shooter from
post 5 rotating to post 1 or to the post dictated by the number of shooters
remaining, but always in clockwise rotation.
6.
The practice of banking targets in advance of commencement of a
shoot-off is not permitted unless all tying shooters are notified and are
in unanimous agreement. Exception: banking of targets is permissible
for telephonic shoots held in multiple locations.
7.
It is recommended that shooters involved in shoot-offs be given no more
than three five minute calls to report for a shoot- off. First call, second
call and final call.
J. SAFETY
Shoot Management may disqualify a contestant for violation of these Rules,
and violations may also result in further disciplinary action.
1.
It is the shooter’s responsibility and shoot management’s responsibility
to conduct a shoot in a reasonable and safe manner.
2.
It is Shoot Management’s responsibility to remove any competitor who is
conducting himself/herself in an unsafe manner. (Repeat violators should
be reported to the Executive Committee for further action.)
3.
It is Shoot Management’s responsibility to instruct the trap help in the
proper and safe conduct of their respective duties.
4. All trap help must have a flag or other warning device to warn of any
person(s) exiting from the trap house.
5.
Trap personnel should be thoroughly instructed of the potential danger
of the trap (particularly the target throwing arm).
6.
Movement and exposure on adjacent traps should be kept to the
minimum.
7.
The practice of tracking targets behind a shooting squad is unsafe,
disconcerting to the shooters, and is not permitted.
8.
Alcohol and drugs impair judgment and the ATA Rules pertaining to the
usage of alcohol and/or drugs must be enforced by Shoot Management.
This Rule shall be strictly complied with and shall apply to practice
shooting as well as registered and tournament events. (Rule XII, B., 2., a.)
9. A gun, which for any reason fails to fire as intended, must be promptly
opened without any subsequent determination by the referee/scorer of
the cause of the Failure to Fire.

PAGE 16:

10.
All guns must have the action opened and contain no live or empty
shells at any time, except while the shooter is on the firing line. A break
open gun’s action may be closed when it is in a gun rack but it shall not
contain a live or empty shell. Repeat offender(s) of these Official Rules
will be given a 30 day suspension upon a second violation of these
Rules; a third violation of these Rules will result in a 90 day suspension;
and further violations will be reviewed by the Executive Committee for
further disciplinary action.
11.
As a safety precaution, test shots will not be permitted under any
circumstance.
12.
A contestant shall place a live shell in his/her gun only when on a post
facing the traps. In Singles and Handicap shooting he/she may place
only one (1) live shell in his/her gun at a time and must remove it or
the empty shell(s) before moving from one post to another. In Doubles
shooting he/she may place two (2) live shells in his/her gun at a time
and must remove both live or empty shells before moving from one (1)
post to another. In changing from one (1) post to another, the shooter
shall not walk in front of the other competitors.
13.
Snap caps or recoil reduction devices may be excluded from the above
only if colored a safety orange as to permanently identify them as not
being a live or empty shell.
14.
A contestant may hold his/her gun in any position when it is his/her
turn to shoot. The contestant must in no manner interfere with the
preceding shooter by raising his/her gun to point or otherwise create
an observable distraction.
15. All guns used by contestants must be equipped, fitted and utilized so
as not to eject empty shells in a manner that substantially disturbs or
interferes with other contestants.
16.
All persons including competitors, referee/scorers, and trap personnel
must wear appropriate eye and hearing protection while on the trap
field. Failure to comply may result in disqualification.
17.
No shooter shall be permitted to participate in any ATA event while
seated in or otherwise using a golf cart on the firing line. Single
passenger conveyances are the appropriate means for participating
should one require assistance due to permanent or temporary disability.
18.
While not prohibited, the practice of resting the muzzle of a shotgun on
a shooter’s toe is ill-advised and is discouraged.
19. Only competitors competing on a field at that time, referee/scorers
or other shoot officials may be on an active trap field during a registered
shoot, unless a safety or emergency concern arises.
K. SPECIAL CATEGORIES
All Ladies, Sub-Juniors, Juniors, Junior-Golds, Sub-Vets, Veterans, Senior-
Vets, and Chair Shooters must declare their special category at the time
of classification in any registered tournament if they wish to compete as

LINK TO RULE BOOK

[Kingair001]

Page 16 is where I found the rule I posted, nothing else found.

Being the rookie . . . but IIRC it's 8 yards for shell ejection in distance

Shooters are separated by 5 yards

So yes . . . you can't complain if shells hit you

It's legal but not prefered of course . . .

Don't shoot me if I am wrong

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[ceh383]

Being the rookie . . . but IIRC it's 8 yards for shell ejection in distance

Shooters are separated by 5 yards

So yes . . . you can't complain if shells hit you

It's legal but not prefered of course . . .

Don't shoot me if I am wrong

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FYI: At the 16 yard line the posts are 3 yards apart, not 5.

Regardless, I can not find any reference to a maximum hull ejection distance in the rule book. All I can find is the quote I posted, listed under J, Safety.

I posted a link to the current rule book, if this is indeed in the rules, please post the section and page number.

Thank you.

[Kingair001]

What I found online - not in the ATA

All guns used by contestants must be equipped, fitted and utilized so as not to eject empty shells in a manner that substantially disturbs or interferes *with other contestants.

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[LynnJr]

FYI: At the 16 yard line the posts are 3 yards apart, not 5.

Regardless, I can not find any reference to a maximum hull ejection distance in the rule book. All I can find is the quote I posted, listed under J, Safety.

I posted a link to the current rule book, if this is indeed in the rules, please post the section and page number.

Thank you.

PITA
Rule Book 2017-2018 printed in 2016 changes highlighted in bold
Page 16
Guns and Loads
Section E
The positions are 9 feet apart in my rulebook not 3 yards even though it's the same distance.
In my rulebook and the online form the hulls can only go 8 feet.
What you posted is correct information just not what we are talking about.

https://shootpita.com/rule-book/

Your using the ATA rulebook not the PITA rulebook is my best guess but the rules interchange as the targets can cross register.

[ceh383]

PITA
Rule Book 2017-2018 printed in 2016 changes highlighted in bold
Page 16
Guns and Loads
Section E
The positions are 9 feet apart in my rulebook not 3 yards even though it's the same distance.
In my rulebook and the online form the hulls can only go 8 feet.
What you posted is correct information just not what we are talking about.

https://shootpita.com/rule-book/

Your using the ATA rulebook not the PITA rulebook is my best guess but the rules interchange as the targets can cross register.

Thanks for that, all the Trap events around here are ATA, didn't even know there was a PITA.

[LynnJr]

I shoot both and for the most part the rules are interchangeable.
Your safety rule basicaly says the same thing. Your 9 feet apart and you can't distract/disrupt the shooter so your empties can't hit him.

[ceh383]

Your safety rule basicaly says the same thing. Your 9 feet apart and you can't distract/disrupt the shooter so your empties can't hit him.

Yes, but I was unaware there was a specific distance attached to the rules.