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  • #46
    Sicarius
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2008
    • 2917

    The nice thing i find about the b16 is that there is no confusion as far as a possible AW. Yes it is ugly in comparison but very functional.
    Kevin

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    • #47
      radd
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jun 2006
      • 419

      Originally posted by Kerplow
      i prefer the basic no frills bullet button. i have nightmares about errant LEO's testifying that my radlock was in the wrong position.
      I am sorry, but I have to say your scenario of a LEO, who is out to get you, is going to mess with you because you had a Raddlock on is just plain FUD. You might as well get rid of any firearms you own. Otherwise you should have nightmares everyday you own any type of firearms.

      Why don't you also mention that same LEO can also stick a 11rd magazine that look like your 10rd magazine in any of other magazine locked device guns.

      Why don't that same LEO (wearing gloves) take your gun and shoot your only witness next to you and say you did it.

      Wake up people! Be on top of what you are doing.

      The Raddlock CA compliant devices are not anymore legal or illegal than any other devices out there.

      Radd
      PRK Compliant Devices:

      AK Raddlock Magazine LockAR Raddlock Magazine Lock/ButtonAR57 Raddlock Magazine LockHK Raddlock Magazine Lock Kit for HK MP5/G3/91 SeriesHK USC/UMP Raddlock Magazine LockHK SL8 Raddlock Magazine LockPSL/Romanian Dragunov Raddlock Magazine LockMSAR STG-556 Raddlock Magazine Lock

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      • #48
        JDW67
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 2001

        Originally posted by radd
        I am sorry, but I have to say your scenario of a LEO, who is out to get you, is going to mess with you because you had a Raddlock on is just plain FUD. You might as well get rid of any firearms you own. Otherwise you should have nightmares everyday you own any type of firearms.

        Why don't you also mention that same LEO can also stick a 11rd magazine that look like your 10rd magazine in any of other magazine locked device guns.

        Why don't that same LEO (wearing gloves) take your gun and shoot your only witness next to you and say you did it.

        Wake up people! Be on top of what you are doing.

        The Raddlock CA compliant devices are not anymore legal or illegal than any other devices out there.

        Radd
        I have to agree with Radd on this one. I've had a few run ins with LEO's concerning my weapons and ALL of them had been polite and courtest.

        In fact, after making sure my guns were compliant, a few even asked to fire my weapons. I'm talking about Burro Canyon, BTW.

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        • #49
          Archie B.
          Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 343

          Vamfire MLD. Allen wrench (.50) adjusts the shroud around the mag release button. Very simple and no need to remove/reinstall anything.
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          • #50
            donking
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 630

            Originally posted by CK_32
            Radlock bullet button system. Rifle gear I think I got mine for like $25

            I found the instructions to go with the vid.

            raddlock_instructions.jpg

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            • #51
              Rebellious
              Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 435

              Originally posted by $P-Ritch$
              I prefer the original bullet buttons. It only takes about 2 mins. to swap back to the original mag release if you go out of state. Like stated earlier they are only about half the cost of the two position ones.
              +1
              Plus it has the largest hole diameter, all the others have a smaller diameter so I can't use the same diameter tool on both.

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              • #52
                radd
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jun 2006
                • 419

                Originally posted by donking
                I found the instructions to go with the vid.

                [ATTACH]90228[/ATTACH]

                BTW: My problem with the above instruction video is the demonstrator failed to show or mention you can only use 10rd magazine with any magazine lock device including the AR Raddlock in California. I understand on youtube site he did put a notation that the demonstration video was shot out of state. And...... "RADDLOCK" is spelled with double "DD"



                Here is an updated one:

                Last edited by radd; 03-17-2011, 4:16 PM.
                PRK Compliant Devices:

                AK Raddlock Magazine LockAR Raddlock Magazine Lock/ButtonAR57 Raddlock Magazine LockHK Raddlock Magazine Lock Kit for HK MP5/G3/91 SeriesHK USC/UMP Raddlock Magazine LockHK SL8 Raddlock Magazine LockPSL/Romanian Dragunov Raddlock Magazine LockMSAR STG-556 Raddlock Magazine Lock

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                • #53
                  The Undertaker
                  Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 139

                  Originally posted by shark92651
                  But while in CA, you prefer top-loading? No thanks. I can put a normal mag release back into my lower in about 30 seconds if I need to, but screwing around with a P50 is not for most people.
                  Yeah. I top load in CA.

                  Elsewhere, not so much. Just ten seconds with a hex key and we are back in business. Plus I'm rather fond of the ridged texture on the Prince50.

                  If you work for RifleGear, great shop. Ordered my Daniel Defense URG from you.

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                  • #54
                    shark92651
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 5431

                    Originally posted by The Undertaker
                    Yeah. I top load in CA.

                    Elsewhere, not so much. Just ten seconds with a hex key and we are back in business. Plus I'm rather fond of the ridged texture on the Prince50.

                    If you work for RifleGear, great shop. Ordered my Daniel Defense URG from you.
                    I don't exactly "work there" Ok, I actually work my arse off at that place but it's a labor of love. The P50 is a good choice is you are willing to top load inside CA and you do a lot of shooting out of CA, I agree. The problem is, and I am putting on my California AR retailer hat here, that a lot of people, especially new shooters, are unaware of the dangers of the P50. The problem is confusion about what it means to "use a tool to remove the magazine". A lot of noobs think that loosening the set screw on the P50 to drop the mag is the same thing as "using a tool to remove the magazine" and they think that is legal. What they don't understand is that they had just created an Assault Weapon configuration so that is why we usually warn people away from the P50 unless they totally understand the legalities of using it. We like to help keep our customers out of trouble whenever possible.
                    Last edited by shark92651; 03-18-2011, 7:58 AM.
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                    • #55
                      missiontrails
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7833

                      Am I missing something? Did the design of the Raddlock change at some point to actually allow a bullet tip space to fit in far enough to drop a mag? Someone above mentioned "Gen X" Raddlock??? Back 1.5 years ago, when I bought the Raddlock/dummy bullet release tool combo from Riflegear, I had a guy on the phone from there trying to drop a mag on one he had in the shop by using a bullet tip, and he could not get it to work either at that time. That's when I removed he Raddlock from that rifle and said "never again".... this tiny hole is just to limiting.

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                      • #56
                        JDW67
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2001

                        Not exactly what your question is, but I use a m855 bullet on my Raddlock to release a mag.

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                        • #57
                          shark92651
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 5431

                          Originally posted by missiontrails
                          Am I missing something? Did the design of the Raddlock change at some point to actually allow a bullet tip space to fit in far enough to drop a mag? Someone above mentioned "Gen X" Raddlock??? Back 1.5 years ago, when I bought the Raddlock/dummy bullet release tool combo from Riflegear, I had a guy on the phone from there trying to drop a mag on one he had in the shop by using a bullet tip, and he could not get it to work either at that time. That's when I removed he Raddlock from that rifle and said "never again".... this tiny hole is just to limiting.
                          Yeah, they have been through a couple design changes and the hole is larger now. It's not as big as the hole on a Bullet Button but it is large enough to allow a .223 tip to drop the mag.
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                          • #58
                            donking
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 630

                            Originally posted by missiontrails
                            Am I missing something? Did the design of the Raddlock change at some point to actually allow a bullet tip space to fit in far enough to drop a mag? Someone above mentioned "Gen X" Raddlock??? Back 1.5 years ago, when I bought the Raddlock/dummy bullet release tool combo from Riflegear, I had a guy on the phone from there trying to drop a mag on one he had in the shop by using a bullet tip, and he could not get it to work either at that time. That's when I removed he Raddlock from that rifle and said "never again".... this tiny hole is just to limiting.
                            Yes, there was a change to the raddlock. I bought mine in June 2010 and they say Genx. Both the .223/5.56 bullet tip and UBBT work for dropping mags. Check out the UBBT, it rocks.

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                            • #59
                              missiontrails
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 7833

                              OK, I just talked to Peter from Raddlock. I purchased mine years ago, one of the first 100 pieces. That "Gen1" model DID have a smaller hole, which explains my frustration back then. Now, I played with my brother's Raddlock equiped rifle today, and he clearly has the "GenX" model with the larger hole... and a bullet tip dropped the mag perfectly. OK, now that is cleared up. So, in my book, Raddlock, Bullet Button Convertible, and the Vamfire MLD are ALL viable options.

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