Frustrated... can't shoot 1/2 moa

[postal]

Hahaha. Yeah I bought some for my test loads to see if its hype or what.

There can be velocity variations from lot to lot, but usually not too bad... If you do your part with quality reloading, you can get a pretty decent ES/SD.

The main reason it's popular is because it's very temperature stable. Very little vel change from cold to hot weather.

I hear h 4895 was supposed to be suitable for 308, and very temp stable as well, though I hadnt tried it.

[postal]

As a check, completely ignore horizontal spread, only measure vertical... now where are you at? I was taught that during rifle break in and load development just go with vertical spread. That may not be the current fashion, but it has always worked for me.

HUH?

Sure if there's a wind- especially a changing wind.... But I've seen barrels whip and string in shots in any direction - vertical, diagonal and horizontal.

Why is it you seem to think a barrel only whips in the vertical?

During load development with favorable wind conditions, I look for the tightest round groups which shows I'm not at a peak in a node flinging bullets in a string pattern.

Look at the pics from Wrangler John. Some groups are vert, some go a bit diag, and one is horizontal.

[five.five-six]

Finally, there's a purpose for my M77 in 300WM. I've only fired two rounds out of it and then went back to shooting 50s since I couldn't handle the recoil of the 300WM.

PM Lyn Jr. I read that as a young child, he perfected the free recoil .300WM technique.

[Exodus343]

Sorry, I'm going to be hard to do anything with for the time being. My new living situation is going to keep me on the property most evenings and weekends. I did check on my old range from when I lived there about 8 years ago and, it doesn't look like it'll be too hard to clear enough brush to get 100 yards again. So, maybe in a couple months, I'll have a decent bench up there and it'll be cleared out enough to play on the weekends.

yea no problem
I have fall semester right now

hopefully around the winter time?

[postal]

Calguns clean up party?

Exodus is bringing Kirin!

[postal]

Free recoil a 308? Many have tried, and many have failed....

Silly me.....

I thought the OP wanted to learn how to actually shoot....

Not just pull a trigger on a sled gun or some such impractical nonsense.

CSA- Can ya post up a pic of your tree stand with a sled gun setup?

[postal]

Well, the first thing you need to do is win a night-force scope.

I dont recall NF being so generous. Usually they have certificates for 50% off retail.

However USO usually steps up to the plate with 2 or 3 scopes, loopy throws in a mk4, Vortex threw in a viper pst and a razor red dot...

No, I dont have a uso, nf 50%, or loop mk4.... but I do have a vortex razor red dot from the prize table.

I need to work on my free recoil!

Hey Randall.... do you teach free recoil in Clinic "A"? LOLOLOLLL!L!L!!!!! (uh... no.... No he doesnt)

[five.five-six]

I dont recall NF being so generous. Usually they have certificates for 50% off retail.

However USO usually steps up to the plate with 2 or 3 scopes, loopy throws in a mk4, Vortex threw in a viper pst and a razor red dot...

No, I dont have a uso, nf 50%, or loop mk4.... but I do have a vortex razor red dot from the prize table.

I need to work on my free recoil!

I shouldn't even be in this thread, I don't even have a gun anymore

[Exodus343]

Exodus is bringing Kirin!

lol I am?
when I turn 21 then MAYBE

unless you prefer Sapparo

[Fjold]

PM Lyn Jr. I read that as a young child, he perfected the free recoil .300WM technique.

I was shooting my 22.250 free recoil and switched over to my 375 H&H and did the same thing without thinking about it. I won't do that again.

[five.five-six]

I was shooting my 22.250 free recoil and switched over to my 375 H&H and did the same thing without thinking about it. I won't do that again.

We have all had great ideas that didn't turn out so hot, I remember as a kid I swam to the bottom of the pool with a garden hose in my mouth so I could breath underwater. Doh!

[thegiff]

I was shooting my 22.250 free recoil and switched over to my 375 H&H and did the same thing without thinking about it. I won't do that again.

Wow! I thought scope eye from a .270 would be bad! Goes to show that training gets ingrained really quickly. Probably no scope on it though, but real close to breaking the clavicle.

Funny story with some relevance to training, some neighbor kids got RC cars for Christmas. Really fast gas ones. The older one runs his around for a while, gives the control to a 10 year old, who plays with the controller first. Little kid flips a switch on it when screwing around with the controller, then starts running the car around for 5 minutes.

Older kid gets controller back, takes off and goes to make a left turn, it turns hard right and slams into a fence. Luckily chain link, was a nice soft catch relatively speaking. Finds little kid flipped the reverse switch. Flips it back and has a good time for the next tank of gas.

Gives it back to the little kid, who takes off, and goes to make a left turn, and wham! Back into the same spot on the same fence. He learned to drive it backwards! He had a hard time learning how to drive it right with the switch flipped to the correct direction.

[milotrain]

That fixed, varget is what I use. I hate the stuff. It meters for ****.

Shut up!!!! People love Verget, people buy Varget, and they leave all the good .223-.308 powders that I want to use alone. Guys Varget is the best and only powder. Promise.


Don't make me get out the puppies.

[CSACANNONEER]

CSA- Can ya post up a pic of your tree stand with a sled gun setup?

I'm too fat to climb a tree. It wouldn't be fair to the tree. Besides, I prefer spot and stalk. It just takes me a while to get my front and rear rests aligned when I'm ready to make a kill but, I like the extra challenge.

lol I am?
when I turn 21 then MAYBE

unless you prefer Sapparo

If that's what you can steal from your parents, it'll do but, I do prefer something with a bit more body.

[postal]

LLOLOLLLLLOLLOLOLLL!!!!!!