Frustrated... can't shoot 1/2 moa

[five.five-six]

One other secret..........99+% of the people on here can't shoot 1/2MOA.

I have guns that have shot better than 1/4 MOA and I shoot my rifles 3-4 times a month and I have to work hard, get lucky with the conditions and the stars have to align to shoot two groups in a row into 1/2 MOA at 100 yards.

Yes that^ I have to be in the zone to shoot sub MOA. If I have been shooting steel plates or shotgun or drawing pistols that day, forget it without a good period of time to settle down. Some people can, but I'm not one of therm......yet

[NorCalFocus]

That fixed, varget is what I use. I hate the stuff. It meters for ****.

Hahaha. Yeah I bought some for my test loads to see if its hype or what.

[DPmax]

As a check, completely ignore horizontal spread, only measure vertical... now where are you at? I was taught that during rifle break in and load development just go with vertical spread. That may not be the current fashion, but it has always worked for me.

[five.five-six]

I don't think I noticed this being brought up in the thread but OP, how is your cheek weld?

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[Exodus343]

I don't think I noticed this being brought up in the thread but OP, how is your cheek weld?

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I am using a Triad tactical stock pack

Cheek weld is good, but I still NEED to work on it just like everything else

[CSACANNONEER]

I don't think I noticed this being brought up in the thread but OP, how is your cheek weld?

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I'll have to teach him to shoot free recoil and he won't need a check weld at all.

[GM4spd]

In over 50 years of shooting I had one rifle that I could shoot 5
shots into .5 inch @ 100 or 1" @200, it was a stock pre 64 Model
70 Winchester in 220 Swift,those were hand loads on a calm day,
factory ammo was good for 3/4". There was nothing done to the rifle
to accurize that I could see,like bedding etc. I think shooting 1/2"
is extremely rare on any day and most rifles and shooters are not
up to it . Pete

[russ69]

In over 50 years of shooting I had one rifle that I could shoot 5
shots into .5 inch @ 100 or 1" @200, it was a stock pre 64 Model
70 Winchester in 220 Swift,those were hand loads on a calm day,
factory ammo was good for 3/4". There was nothing done to the rifle
to accurize that I could see,like bedding etc. I think shooting 1/2"
is extremely rare on any day and most rifles and shooters are not
up to it . Pete

This should sum up this thread. A factory rifle with blem bullets, just doesn't add up to 1/2 inch groups in most cases. Remingtons's custom shop only guaranteed their custom rifles to shoot under an inch, IIRC. That was for a 5 shoot group, which is not enough shots to be statistically significant.

[Exodus343]

I'll have to teach him to shoot free recoil and he won't need a check weld at all.

Thanks Greg
do you know when we can get started?

[russ69]

I'll have to teach him to shoot free recoil and he won't need a check weld at all.

Free recoil a 308? Many have tried, and many have failed....

[five.five-six]

Free recoil a 308? Many have tried, and many have failed....

Good point, he should start him with a .300WM.

[CSACANNONEER]

Good point, he should start him with a .300WM.

Finally, there's a purpose for my M77 in 300WM. I've only fired two rounds out of it and then went back to shooting 50s since I couldn't handle the recoil of the 300WM.

[CSACANNONEER]

Thanks Greg
do you know when we can get started?

Sorry, I'm going to be hard to do anything with for the time being. My new living situation is going to keep me on the property most evenings and weekends. I did check on my old range from when I lived there about 8 years ago and, it doesn't look like it'll be too hard to clear enough brush to get 100 yards again. So, maybe in a couple months, I'll have a decent bench up there and it'll be cleared out enough to play on the weekends.

[HK Dave]

Sorry, I'm going to be hard to do anything with for the time being. My new living situation is going to keep me on the property most evenings and weekends. I did check on my old range from when I lived there about 8 years ago and, it doesn't look like it'll be too hard to clear enough brush to get 100 yards again. So, maybe in a couple months, I'll have a decent bench up there and it'll be cleared out enough to play on the weekends.

Calguns clean up party?

[CSACANNONEER]

Calguns clean up party?

I'm not going to spend a lot of time brush clearing and making new noises until I fill an A tag or two. Then, after A zone season is quail season. It sure sucks that I feel the need to keep things quite at home so I can hunt there. The real bummer is that when I fill a tag, I have to load the buck up in a truck and take it into Thousand Oaks to find someone to validate the tag. The post office is probably the closest but, I doubt the postmaster there even knows that he's authorized to sign a tag.